Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Feb 2011 23:02 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "There's just one problem, though: the 'nine young investors' don't really exist - according to the last tweet on the @NokiaPlanB Twitter account, it was all a hoax perpetuated by 'one very bored engineer who really likes his iPhone'. Ouch."
Thread beginning with comment 462902
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[5]: I like WP7
by ichi on Thu 17th Feb 2011 14:29 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: I like WP7"
ichi
Member since:
2007-03-06

It doesn't matter what platform you develop on you will be locked into that platform in some way. Write for QT, you end up being locked into QT in some way, if you write your software in PHP you will be locked into PHP (facebook is an example of this and they had to develop HipHop to solve performance issues).


Yep, but .Net is tied to the Windows platform while Qt (or PHP for that matter) is not. You don't get just tied to the framework (which is to be expected since you get used to it, learn it's quirks and build your workflow around it) but to an OS that happens to be developed by the very same dev of the framework.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[6]: I like WP7
by nt_jerkface on Thu 17th Feb 2011 16:59 in reply to "RE[5]: I like WP7"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

With Qt you get locked into a development team whose future funding is questionable.

And if you think the community can do as much as a sponsored team....no. Qt has excelled past GTK because it has a team of paid developers. Without funding it would stagnate.

Qt also has a few remaining issues with native integration in Windows and OSX that need to be worked out. If funding stays at current levels in a few years you will see a lot more interest from Windows developers.

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[7]: I like WP7
by Nth_Man on Fri 18th Feb 2011 05:43 in reply to "RE[6]: I like WP7"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

With Qt you get locked into a development team

With Qt you get the source code, and you can study it, modify it, improve it, distribute it, etc, or contract someone to do it for you. You are not locked :-)

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[6]: I like WP7
by lucas_maximus on Thu 17th Feb 2011 22:08 in reply to "RE[5]: I like WP7"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

You don't get just tied to the framework (which is to be expected since you get used to it, learn it's quirks and build your workflow around it) but to an OS that happens to be developed by the very same dev of the framework.


You do this in any language and OS ... I work very differently when I was working using a Linux with the LAMP stack, to using Windows with Appserv (WAMP basically) installed. With Linux I very much relied on using VIM in a terminal ... and in Windows I used editplus and graphical mysql client.

It is a non-issue. A good dev is always a good dev ... the best Dev I knew sat one of Designers computer and didn't know anything about Flash and its scripting ... and within half and hour had solved the problem and finished the website for the designer.

Similarly every friday I get called from email marketing ... I know nothing about their email campaign software or how to do HTML emails ... however using my existing web dev skills I was able to solve their problem ... in about 10 minutes, it is usually dreamweaver putting in crap markup.

Visual Studio's and .NET benefits far outweight the fact that it is Windows only ... it is nice being here, I can develop with ease for Web, Desktop, Phone, Xbox and some embedded devices (like netduino) without having to spend a lot of time learning new concepts ... If the worst comes to the worst ... I have good OO skills and database skills and I can transition if the job market in my area changes.

I am not against other frameworks, languages etc ... they all bring ideas to the table and generally get absorbed into other frameworks and languages ... i.e. ASP.NET MVC is basically Ruby on Rails ... I love it ... I cringe when Writing ASP.NET web forms.

I am not against other OSes (I buy my OpenBSD CDs and T-shirts etc, I also have a paid for copy of Redhat 9) ... what I don't like is people not looking realistically and pragmatically at a platform/framework/language/hardware.

My personal website is LAMP based because that was the cheapest hosting and I only needed 4 pages with realtively simple scripting ...

My price comparison site I am building is a ASP.NET webforms beast ... with a WCF webservice ... because I have good debugging in VS and I knew Webforms when I started writing it.

Reply Parent Score: 2