Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 18th Feb 2011 23:29 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless The man, the legend: a main developer of the BeOS. Did the App Server, Interface Kit, Application Kit. These days, Benoit Schillings does something else entirely: he's currently the chief technology officer at Myriad, where he and his team is working on Alien Dalvik. Now that I know he's the one leading this team, I know for sure we've got something special here.
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RE[3]: Comment by Radio
by Nelson on Sun 20th Feb 2011 09:25 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Radio"
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

It doesn't have to be shoehorning. I use old Windows, Amiga and other games all the time on my T61p with Fedora, they appear as icons in the game menu and when clicked start fullscreen, fully configured for my hardware, including gamepad. Somebody without technical knowledge would not know it isn't native.

When implemented this way you have the second largest library of applications in the world right from the start.


They maintain the Android look and feel, and throwing users who are accustomed to one experience, into another one, for the sake of application compatibility to me, is a waste. People don't want a half assed implementation I don't think, people want home grown applications optimized for the host platform.

The size of an application store does not matter as much as the quality of the most commonly used applications. 100,000 task managers don't mean a thing to the end user.

This is why a lot of these open platforms don't get anywhere. The opennes is overemphasized to the point where you sacrifice cohesion in the platform. There is a real balance that needs to be struct, and until people stop pretending that because you can do whatever you want with something, that you should, then things wont change.

Stop looking at things as numbers, or checkmarks in a feature list, and start looking at them as genuine, compelling end user experiences.

I'd much rather an application that performs and feels like it belongs on my phone, versus something that someone threw together. In fact, if we're going to draw comparisons, this is akin to Palm using iTunes for its webOS devices. Sure, they could do it, but its a cop out and unprofessional.

Edited 2011-02-20 09:28 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Radio
by Radio on Sun 20th Feb 2011 12:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Radio"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

They maintain the Android look and feel, and throwing users who are accustomed to one experience, into another one, for the sake of application compatibility to me, is a waste.

Oh My God, this is so disturbing! The big rounded boxes does not have the same color! Everybody is so lost!

Seriously, who gives a damn? You already can't see the difference between a maemo and an android app (just look at the deezer app).

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RE[5]: Comment by Radio
by ari-free on Sun 20th Feb 2011 13:57 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Radio"
ari-free Member since:
2007-01-22

I know...every website has a completely different look and feel and yet that doesn't stop people from using the internet.

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RE[5]: Comment by Radio
by Nelson on Sun 20th Feb 2011 16:54 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Radio"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

"They maintain the Android look and feel, and throwing users who are accustomed to one experience, into another one, for the sake of application compatibility to me, is a waste.

Oh My God, this is so disturbing! The big rounded boxes does not have the same color! Everybody is so lost!

Seriously, who gives a damn? You already can't see the difference between a maemo and an android app (just look at the deezer app).
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The way an end user expects to interact with an app is the way it's been interacting with the system as a whole. If an experience is different (not just visually, you cant sit here and tell me that Android and Maemo/MeeGo/whatever will all share consistent behavior with Android's look and feel) then the customer will be legitimately thrown off. This is UX 101. It's the whole point behind standard controls.

But you know what, you can be dismissive and you can oversimplify it if you want. However you, and engineers who think like you, are the reasons why the platform will never be a viable third way and will always remain a science project. It's like its amateur hour.

You people put principals above experience, to the point of absurdity, and you're producing a genuine, free software, open, .... piece of shit.

There is nothing wrong with code sharing or code reuse across platforms. That's fine, but the front end UI should be platform specific.

Edited 2011-02-20 16:56 UTC

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