Linked by Hadrien Grasland on Mon 28th Feb 2011 11:23 UTC, submitted by Joao Luis
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Now that the dust has settled after Stephen Elop's big announcement on the 11th February 2011, many have come to realise that actually Nokia's move towards a a new Ecosystem is not as bad as what they thought. [...] But what does all this mean for the Nokia Developers? When the proposed partnership with Microsoft was announced, many felt betrayed and worried about their future, but after having heard and assisted a number of workshops at the Nokia Developer Day at this years Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, earlier this month, their outlook towards the new ecosystem has taken a 180 degree turn and are now looking at the proposed partnership with a lot more enthusiasm, recognising the potential it will bring them in the coming months."
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So long, and thanks for all the fish
by michi on Mon 28th Feb 2011 18:05 UTC
michi
Member since:
2006-02-04

I always had Nokia phones and I was quite happy with them. I think the decision to use WP7 on their future phones was a big mistake for Nokia. If WP7 will be a success, Nokia will be totally depend on Microsoft, but Microsoft will not depend on Nokia and I really doubt Microsoft cares much for Nokia as a company. Just have a look at how the Microsoft-IBM cooperation turned out. If WP7 will not be a success, Nokia will be doomed anyway. I don't know if the alternatives (MeeGo, Android) would have been better, but at least they would not became dependent on Microsoft, which ruined a lot of companies before.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

and Microsoft relationships also helped a lot of companies .. like basically every Windows OEM. Lol.

Or the thousands of small businesses who've invested in Microsoft's platform to reap the benefits and get dirt cheap equipment/tools.

People just seem to focus on some high profile sour deals, but partnerships with MSFT happen and are successful every day of the year.

Nokia will not only make money off of WP7 handsets THEY sell, they will make money in licensing fees from WP7 devices OTHER OEMs sell since they will be also selling their services. That's significant value add.

They'd be just another OEM had they gone with Android. Let's be real, almost every OEM customization done to Android is fucking terrible. That's crappification, not differentiation.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

and Microsoft relationships also helped a lot of companies .. like basically every Windows OEM. Lol.

Or the thousands of small businesses who've invested in Microsoft's platform to reap the benefits and get dirt cheap equipment/tools.


Different kind of "partnership". MS has a history of bad partnerships, the kind that Nokia has now entered into. well, bad for the non-MS party, that is.

They'd be just another OEM had they gone with Android.

And now they'll probably end up just another OEM anyway, especially if WP7 becomes a success and other companies also wants it. It's pretty damn unlikely that Nokia will be favored then.

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

You assume, that MS will share WP7 royalities with Nokia. I read Elop stated that Nokia will pay MS for WP7 licences preety much as every other oem.

Other (uncertain) assumption is that Nokia will sometime get share of app market.
Given that MS will run the party I higly doubt this would be sustainable. They will surely find a way around it.
Note that in successfull MS partnerships were the successfull partner was always an upstart that has little to loose, rarely and established industry player.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

People just seem to focus on some high profile sour deals, but partnerships with MSFT happen and are successful every day of the year.

Dude, Microsoft's whole mobile adventure has been one long disaster.

Nokia will not only make money off of WP7 handsets THEY sell, they will make money in licensing fees from WP7 devices OTHER OEMs sell since they will be also selling their services. That's significant value add.

Windows Phone has no market share next to iOS and Android, Nokia's market share is sinking like a brick and fewer and fewer people want their 'services'.

By the time Windows Phone appears on their devices next year Nokia will be killed off completely and Microsoft won't have the installed base they thought they were going to get. Microsoft will then move on to the next disaster.

They'd be just another OEM had they gone with Android.

I wonder why PC OEMs don't just view themselves like that when pre-installing Windows...... You can't have it all ways with your comparisons I'm afraid.

With Android what they've got is a mobile OS with meaningful market share that they have access to the code for. If push comes to shove then Nokia can branch off their own market place and all developers will need to do is submit the same code and applications to Nokia's store as they do to Google's.

With WP they've got an OS with no market share, few applications written that no one wants that won't see the light of day for another year that they have zero code control over.

The 'least worst option' was obvious.

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