Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th Mar 2011 18:59 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y And over the weekend, the saga regarding Canonical, GNOME, and KDE has continued. Lots of comments all over the web, some heated, some well-argued, some wholly indifferent. Most interestingly, Jeff Waugh and Dave Neary have elaborated on GNOME's position after the initial blog posts by Shuttleworth and Seigo, providing a more coherent look at GNOME's side of the story.
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My take
by nt_jerkface on Tue 15th Mar 2011 02:02 UTC
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2009-08-26

Linux has long been held back by the lack of a single desktop.

I don't think that is the biggest problem but it is in the top 3.

Collaboration among desktops still leaves a lack of a cohesive alternative. In this day and age you can't ask users to leave Windows or OSX along with their software and then explain how they need to pick from 1 of 5 desktops.

Desktop groups don't have a good history of working together so I don't see why anyone would assume that will change.

The Linux desktop is back to hobby status so I think it is better to just let them duke it out. Gnome 3 is a mess, KDE should just ignore it.

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RE: My take
by Anonymous Penguin on Tue 15th Mar 2011 02:38 in reply to "My take"
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2005-07-06



The Linux desktop is back to hobby status so I think it is better to just let them duke it out.


You rightly say "it is back", because I always felt that KDE 3 was very professional and improving all the time.

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RE: My take
by oiaohm on Tue 15th Mar 2011 03:36 in reply to "My take"
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2009-05-30

Linux has long been held back by the lack of a single desktop.

I don't think that is the biggest problem but it is in the top 3.

Collaboration among desktops still leaves a lack of a cohesive alternative. In this day and age you can't ask users to leave Windows or OSX along with their software and then explain how they need to pick from 1 of 5 desktops.

Desktop groups don't have a good history of working together so I don't see why anyone would assume that will change.

History you lack it. Most progress on common standards is also the times when the desktops are at each other throats threatening to kill each other.

Basically its been too passive for progress in recent years. This is sign of a possible good time to come.

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RE[2]: My take
by nt_jerkface on Tue 15th Mar 2011 16:36 in reply to "RE: My take"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Whatever you say Yoda.

KDE and GNOME have always been the bestest pals and always collaborate. No one ever complains about KDE and GNOME conflicts. Everything is fine in Linuxland, not a single tank.

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RE: My take
by Soulbender on Wed 16th Mar 2011 06:48 in reply to "My take"
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2005-08-18

Linux has long been held back by the lack of a single desktop.

I don't think that is the biggest problem but it is in the top 3.


I dunno about that. Five years ago maybe but not now. I can't really say I notice a big difference between gnome and kde apps when it comes to user interface and basic functionality. I'd say this is true on all mainstream distros.

Collaboration among desktops still leaves a lack of a cohesive alternative. In this day and age you can't ask users to leave Windows or OSX along with their software and then explain how they need to pick from 1 of 5 desktops.


Lets' not underestimate the consumers intelligence. Consumers are perfectly capable of making decisions between a dizzying number of other products like phones, so picking a desktop isn't that much of a stretch,

Gnome 3 is a mess, KDE should just ignore it.


On that we can agree. if Gnome don't want to play ball, f--k em.

Edited 2011-03-16 06:49 UTC

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RE[2]: My take
by nt_jerkface on Wed 16th Mar 2011 19:02 in reply to "RE: My take"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Lets' not underestimate the consumers intelligence. Consumers are perfectly capable of making decisions between a dizzying number of other products like phones, so picking a desktop isn't that much of a stretch


I think the problem is intellectual laziness and not a lack of intelligence.

The average consumer is intimidated by computers and is averse to learning new software. I would also suspect that the majority would prefer to have only one choice when it comes to mobile operating systems. They like a range of colors and sizes but when it comes to software they are resistant to anything new.

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