Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 26th Mar 2011 02:00 UTC
When you run smbd -V on your Snow Leopard installation, you'll see it's running SAMBA version 3.0.28a-apple. While I'm not sure how much difference the "-apple" makes, version 3.0.28a is old. Very old. In other words, it's riddled with bugs. Apple hasn't updated SAMBA in 3 years, and for Lion, they're dumping it altogether for something homegrown. The reason? SAMBA is now GPLv3.
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Doth mine eyes deceive me?
by mrhasbean on Sat 26th Mar 2011 05:17
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Member since:2006-04-03
People who write software should be able to determine the circumstances under which it can be used, right?
Certainly not if it's say Apple saying "you can only run this on our hardware", but I suppose because it's GPL people view it with a different set of glasses - ones that have a rosey tinge...
Legally this is the only choice Apple has. GPLv3 is simply not compatible with large corporations, and Apple won't be the only ones distancing themselves from products that use it. While the goals of those patent clauses might seem honourable, the legal advisers to major corporations would be foolhardy to advise they do anything other than step away from such products, because taking on responsibility for someone else's patent compliance is just opening a can of worms, and certainly not something viable for big companies.
RE: Doth mine eyes deceive me?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sat 26th Mar 2011 18:06
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Member since:2006-07-14
Aside form the fact that a EULA is different that an open source code license, I actually am not that upset over apple's EULA.
Re: patents
Its obvious we have a lot of armchair legal quarterbacks here who are teaming up with Apple cheerleaders. I don't think the patent clause is that anti-corperate. I'd like to hear a reasoning form an actual corporation why they don't want to use gpl v3 software due to the patent clause. The old "its because of patents" refrain is weak reasoning. Its like asking why a company is bankrupt and being told " its because of money ".
Member since:2005-11-18
RE[2]: Comment by Brynet
by Soulbender on Sat 26th Mar 2011 09:14
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Member since:2005-08-18
Nothing really. It's their code and they can attach whatever license they want to it. I guess people are rubbed the wrong way by how it is always touted as an instrument of freedom and such and how it is, supposedly, infectious.
Personally, I don't like the fact that it is god-knows-how-many-pages long and riddled with lawyerisms. I think RMS is a closet lawyer.
I much prefer the simplicity of the BSD license, aside from the fact that it's more free.
RE[3]: Comment by Brynet
by Nth_Man on Sat 26th Mar 2011 10:10
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Member since:2010-05-16
riddled with lawyerisms
A license is a legal contract, if you are going to do one, you have to do it with all the necessary details and forms. If not, a lawyer can come and bite you in the details.
For more intuitive explanations, you can write FAQs, quick guides, etc, like in
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
I think RMS is a closet lawyer.
You can see FSF's board of directors
http://www.fsf.org/about/board
the directors of the Software Freedom Law Center
http://www.softwarefreedom.org/about/team/
and mainly its boss: Eben Moglen, professor of law and legal history at Columbia University.
The FSF released the GPLv3, approved by the Software Freedom Law Center.
I hope you remember this next time you call someone "closet lawyer".
Member since:2005-08-27
Well, Apple has already got bitten by the fact that GNU licenses have unforeseeable strings attached to who-knows-what. It's not just the legal letter (which is thoroughly intertwined with propaganda) but there's the "SPIRIT" of the license which comes back to haunt you after you think you've complied with all the written obligations (think Webkit, for example). And you still get a public bashing. So why bother with the GNUisances then?
Member since:2007-03-15
There is nothing wrong with the GPLv3 like there is nothing wrong with corporations and individuals providing software on whatever basis they see fit. On the other hand talking about right and wrong implies a moral judgement that is inappropriate in what should be primarily an economic decision. Buyers are not more virtuous than sellers.
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 23:22 UTC
"Ilja van Sprundel, a security researcher with IOActive, has discovered a large number of issues in the way various X client libraries handle the responses they receive from servers, and has worked with X.Org's security team to analyze, confirm, and fix these issues."
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 22:04 UTC
"Google is facing a new antitrust probe by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission into whether the company is using its leadership in the online display-advertising market to illegally curb competition, people familiar with the matter said." Sucks to be Google today, apparently.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 22:01 UTC
"In the midst of the major press blitz surrounding its annual I/O Conference, Google dropped some unfortunate news about its instant messaging plans. In several places around the web, the company is replacing the existing 'Talk' platform with a new one called 'Hangouts' that sharply diminishes support for the open messaging protocol known as XMPP (or sometimes informally Jabber), and also removes the option to disable the archiving of all chat communications. These changes represent a switch from open protocols to proprietary ones, and a clear step backward for many users." That's why I always say: only suckers trust companies.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/23/13 17:52 UTC
"The wave of departures is a sign of internal struggle, but amidst all the bad news, there is a glimmer of hope. According to an anonymous HTC executive cited by WSJ, the crucial HTC One is selling 'pretty good so far'. The executive revealed that HTC sold about five million One units since launch, a performance that is deemed encouraging. However, sales have been limited by the persisting supply issues that still plague the production of the HTC One." Finally some good news for HTC. Five million units amidst supply constraints is very impressive.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 22:23 UTC
"Sony gave the PS4 50% more raw shader performance, plain and simple (768 SPs @ 800MHz vs. 1152 SPs & 800MHz). Unlike last generation, you don't need to be some sort of Jedi to extract the PS4's potential here. The Xbox One and PS4 architectures are quite similar, Sony just has more hardware under the hood. Weâll have to wait and see how this hardware delta gets exposed in games over time, but the gap is definitely there. The funny thing about game consoles is that itâs usually the lowest common denominator that determines the bulk of the experience across all platforms. On the plus side, the Xbox One should enjoy better power/thermal characteristics compared to the PlayStation 4. Even compared to the Xbox 360 we should see improvement in many use cases thanks to modern power management techniques." AnandTech does its usual in-depth thing.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 13:38 UTC
"The Verge has learned that HTC's Chief Product Officer, Kouji Kodera, left the company last week. Kodera was responsible for HTC's overall product strategy, which makes the departure especially notable on the heels of the global launch of the make-or-break One. It's not just Kodera. In the past three-odd months, HTC has lost a number of employees in rapid succession." I really hope HTC pulls it together.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 13:30 UTC, submitted by JRepin
"It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013. This is a snapshot of Debian 'sid' at the time of the Debian 'wheezy' release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is not an official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release." Important note: 75% of Debian packages are supported bu Debian GNU/Hurd. Impressive.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 22:06 UTC
"The first killer app was VisiCalc. This early spreadsheet turned the Apple II from a hobbyist toy to a business computer. VisiCalc came with room for improvement, though. In addition, a new architecture and operating system, the Intel-based IBM PC and MS-DOS, also needed a spreadsheet to be taken seriously. That spreadsheet, released in early 1983, would be Lotus 1-2-3, and it would change the world. It became the PC's killer app, and the world would never be the same. On May 14, IBM quietly announced the end of the road for 1-2-3, along with Lotus Organizer and the Lotus SmartSuite office suite. Lotus 1-2-3's day is done." Impressive 30 year run.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 21:45 UTC
"There's a disconnect between how Apple CEO Tim Cook sees his company's tax strategies and how some members of the US Senate view it. That became clearer than ever today after Cook and two other Apple executives testified before Congress, explaining why they're holding most of their international income in Irish subsidiaries like Apple Operations International, which declare no tax residency anywhere in the world. AOI hasn't filed a tax return anywhere in the world for the last five years, yet it earned $30 billion in income from 2009 to 2012, according to a Senate report released yesterday." Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's just. Apple, Google, Microsoft, and many more - these companies might not be breaking any laws, but it's obvious to anyone that what they are doing is scummy.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 15:53 UTC
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Why all the GPL V3 hate?
What's so wrong about GPL V3. People who write software should be able to determine the circumstances under which it can be used, right? Whats wrong with a bunch of people giving away code with the condition that it can't be locked up by anyone else?