Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Apr 2011 18:33 UTC
Internet Explorer So, have you installed Internet Explorer 9 yet on your Windows machine? No? Well, feel assured in the knowledge that at MIX11 today, Microsoft announced Internet Explorer 10, while also pushing out the very first preview release. Also, IE10 (can I call it IEX? Can I? Can I?) was demonstrated running on Windows for ARM.
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RE[2]: HW accel, blah
by Hiev on Tue 12th Apr 2011 21:32 UTC in reply to "RE: HW accel, blah"
Hiev
Member since:
2005-09-27

Saying HW is bloat for the browser is like saying Compiz is bloat for x.org.

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RE[3]: HW accel, blah
by 0brad0 on Tue 12th Apr 2011 21:48 in reply to "RE[2]: HW accel, blah"
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

Saying HW is bloat for the browser is like saying Compiz is bloat for x.org.


Compiz *is* bloat for X.

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RE[4]: HW accel, blah
by Hiev on Tue 12th Apr 2011 21:52 in reply to "RE[3]: HW accel, blah"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

I don't consider using the metal to give a better experience in the desktop is bloat, In the contrary, Who would want to use software accelerated desktop these days?, I certainly don't, not even smarphones are willing to.

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RE[3]: HW accel, blah
by smashIt on Tue 12th Apr 2011 22:04 in reply to "RE[2]: HW accel, blah"
smashIt Member since:
2005-07-06

Saying HW is bloat for the browser is like saying Compiz is bloat for x.org.


it's not the tech that is bloat, it's what web-devs will do with it that is bloat

just remember when web-devs discovered java-script...

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RE[4]: HW accel, blah
by Hiev on Tue 12th Apr 2011 22:11 in reply to "RE[3]: HW accel, blah"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

No, WebDevs knew javascript a long time ago, is more like javascript in the browser stopped sucking badly in the recent years and now is safe to leverage its power.

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RE[3]: HW accel, blah
by Neolander on Wed 13th Apr 2011 06:51 in reply to "RE[2]: HW accel, blah"
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2010-03-08

Saying HW is bloat for the browser is like saying Compiz is bloat for x.org.

I say that. Why would you need a powerful GPU to smoothly render basic things like windows and web pages ? E17 shows pretty well that you don't need it even if you're fond of crazy animations everywhere. GPUs are for heavy tasks like 1080p video decoding, 3D games, or multimedia creation, that power shouldn't be needed otherwise.

Using the GPU, in itself, is not that bad. But when it's useless, it's unneeded complexity, that's an unneeded source of crashes. And the worst is that it could actually become useful one day (cause you know, if it's there, devs will use it), because that would mean that our desktop and web would have become more bloated by the same order of magnitude than between the first Macintosh's OS and Windows Vista Ultimate.

Edited 2011-04-13 07:01 UTC

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RE[4]: HW accel, blah
by smitty on Wed 13th Apr 2011 07:02 in reply to "RE[3]: HW accel, blah"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

"Saying HW is bloat for the browser is like saying Compiz is bloat for x.org.

I say that. Why would you need a powerful GPU to smoothly render basic things like windows and web pages ? E17 shows pretty well that you don't need it. GPUs are for heavy tasks like 1080p video decoding, 3D games, or multimedia creation, that power shouldn't be needed otherwise.
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A lot of people want to play 3D games in their web browser. No one's saying the Google home page needs acceleration, but doing 3D and animations on the GPU just makes sense. Even if you don't need it, you'll still end up saving power and better utilizing the hardware on lower power devices.

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