Linked by RichterKuato on Tue 10th May 2011 21:35 UTC
Multimedia, AV "[Arno] Gourdol confirmed tonight [Flash Player] would get the full WebM support, which also includes the Vorbis audio encoding technology and a container to bundle the data together.[...] 'We don't have a timetable for it,' Gourdol said of WebM support in Flash. Important factors include hardware support, just getting under way today, and broad use of the technology, he said."
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RE[3]: I'm torn...
by CaptainN- on Wed 11th May 2011 17:32 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I'm torn..."
CaptainN-
Member since:
2005-07-07

As a long time web developer, previously HTML/CSS/JavaScript enthusiast - the last thing I want is Flash's demise. I understand the hatred from Linux users (and OSX users to a lesser extent - though HTML sucked for a long time there too), but developing in HTML5 is garbage compared to Flash development.

That said, Adobe is moving solidly into the app space with AIR, Flash as a platform will be fine - and HTML can linger in it's perpetually incomplete headache space for all of eternity for all I care (call me bitter).

(I still hold on to a very tiny amount of hope that HTML will one day be complete and competitive as a real app platform - with the current players and games, I really don't have any expectations for it.)

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RE[4]: I'm torn...
by lucas_maximus on Thu 12th May 2011 16:42 in reply to "RE[3]: I'm torn..."
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

HTML wasn't ever meant for that. It was meant to describe a web page's structure.

A web page should be seen as a document.

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RE[4]: I'm torn...
by lemur2 on Fri 13th May 2011 07:13 in reply to "RE[3]: I'm torn..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

developing in HTML5 is garbage compared to Flash development.


Did you know that Adobe's tools for website development can "write out to" HTML5/CSS3/ECMAscript as well as to Flash?

http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/05/adobe-adds-html5-creation-tools-to...

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RE[5]: I'm torn...
by CaptainN- on Fri 13th May 2011 17:04 in reply to "RE[4]: I'm torn..."
CaptainN- Member since:
2005-07-07

Yeah, I use Dreamweaver daily. Don't get me started on that crashy unstable hunk of junk! The reality is though, the target platform is incomplete, and doing basic things (like columns) entails hacking some standard (hack the HTML and violate standards and use tables, or hack the CSS float model to create something that kind of works like columns, but not really).

Or you could use Flash and Text Layout Framework, have a WYSIWYG that works, and be done. *sigh* One day.

At least Adobe and others are actively hacking up WebKit to try and improve the situation - someone's going to mess it all up at the 11th hour though. Call me jaded.

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