Linked by Kroc Camen on Tue 17th May 2011 12:05 UTC
Mono Project Two weeks ago we covered the news that the Mono development team were let go kicked out by the new owners of Novel, Attachmate, apparently to move operations to Germany. Miguel de Icazza, founder of Mono, has taken this opportunity to break off on his own and has started a new company, Xamarin, to bring commercial .NET development products to iOS and Android.
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RE[5]: Comment by Morin
by lucas_maximus on Wed 18th May 2011 13:12 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Morin"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

2010, which is actually obvious from reading my post.


You know what I meant.

Well, ctrl+space works fine for me. Which part is the hard one, pressing ctrl or pressing space?


Using Eclipse 3.4, 3.5 and 3.6 ... doesn't work when I press space to complete, it brings the menu but does not let me complete.

Eclipse will complete AND update import (using) statements at the same time PLUS take static type information into account.


CTRL + . does this.

Namespacing works differently in .NET, the file doesn't have to belong in the directory
like Java does with package. So updating an import doesn't make any sense unless you are doing some refactoring and Visual Studio does this just fine.

It sounds like you are trying to program c# like Java.

It will also make suggestions for naming a newly defined variable. VS2010 does none of these.


Why would you want to do this is beyond me?

Edited 2011-05-18 13:14 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by Morin
by JAlexoid on Wed 18th May 2011 14:56 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Morin"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Sounds like you are trying to use Eclipse like VS.
VS is a great tool, for working the Microsoft way. PERIOD. And that is how in the .NET land think, for most part. (There is little wrong with that, until they start preaching...)

Yet, finding free libraries for Java? Are you (I'm really out of words here). As libraries and frameworks go, F/OSS or proprietary, Java is #1. The problem is not finding, it's choosing.

I have a lot of respect towards VS and the work that MS has put into dev tools, but you are overdoing it.

PS: Problem with Android dev tools is poor UI editor and the fact that it uses an emulator, not simulator. Not Eclipse, per se.

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RE[7]: Comment by Morin
by lucas_maximus on Wed 18th May 2011 15:37 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Morin"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Sounds like you are trying to use Eclipse like VS.
VS is a great tool, for working the Microsoft way. PERIOD. And that is how in the .NET land think, for most part. (There is little wrong with that, until they start preaching...)


Touche ..

I actually come from a Java background and moved to .NET, so I actually used Eclipse first. My main point was that C# and Java while very similar languages ... are not the same.

Yet, finding free libraries for Java? Are you (I'm really out of words here). As libraries and frameworks go, F/OSS or proprietary, Java is #1. The problem is not finding, it's choosing.


I do, it all very geared towards people that develop on Unix, GitHub, SourceForge etc ... Most .NET stuff that is worth using is on Codeplex, and with NuGet it a piece of piss to get hold of it and import it into your project.

I have a lot of respect towards VS and the work that MS has put into dev tools, but you are overdoing it.


Maybe I am, but whenever I go back to writing code in Java, it feels primitive in comparison. Eclipse is good but things like code completion etc. is far better on VS2010.

There is a lot of MS bashing on this site by people who IMO don't really know a whole lot about dev work. So I do tend to be a bit defensive.

Edited 2011-05-18 15:39 UTC

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VS vs Eliplse
by oiaohm on Wed 18th May 2011 22:44 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Morin"
oiaohm Member since:
2009-05-30

This is off topic really.

There are other IDE's for Linux. Kdevelop for one that is quite nice.

If ELispse sux so bad. Maybe it time to make one that works better or port like Kdevelop proper to windows.

IDE's can be changed. Core language and the legal effects of are a completely different matter. Since if the core language has legal problems you cannot ship your applications.

If a IDE has legal problems you still can ship your applications(Unless its the IDE of course) and use a different one.

Also Mono IDE is ment to be Mono Develop not VS. So why all the chat about VS does Mono Develop sux as well.

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