Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th May 2011 18:59 UTC, submitted by fran
Gnome Something's - once again - brewing within the GNOME project. While a mere suggestion for now, and by no means any form of official policy, influential voices within the GNOME project are arguing that GNOME should become a full-fledged Linux-based operating system, and that the desktop environment should drop support for other operating systems such as Solaris and the BSDs. I have a feeling this isn't going to go down well with many of our readers.
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RE: Sad but inevitable
by WorknMan on Thu 19th May 2011 19:42 UTC in reply to "Sad but inevitable"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

This is just that: sad.

The simple fact that someone thought of making Gnome a Linux-only thing is a failure. What about the whole freedom/open/whatnot righteous ideas that are supposed to be part of the FOSS movement? In my mind, the movement acknowledges niche players and tries to embrace them.


Well, as the article states, Gnome is a free project and anybody is welcome to port/fork it, so why don't you stop bitching and start coding?

See, that's the thing about open source... all this 'free love' and 'free choice' shit is all fine and good, but then somebody actually has to sit down and do the work, and that's where it falls apart sometimes. And when you have all these different variants of something that exist because people can't agree to do things in a uniform manner, don't act too surprised if somebody says 'enough is enough', and drops support for your personal flavor of choice.

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RE[2]: Sad but inevitable
by orestes on Thu 19th May 2011 19:52 in reply to "RE: Sad but inevitable"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

Exactly. If the other OS folks want to fork it or implement the feature set it relies on then more power to them. Don't expect the main Gnome tree to do workarounds because your OS lacks the infrastructure the project needs to work properly

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RE[3]: Sad but inevitable
by Soulbender on Thu 19th May 2011 19:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Sad but inevitable"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Funny then how much Linux users always whine about how certain software is Windows or OSX only.

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RE[3]: Sad but inevitable
by pfgbsd on Thu 19th May 2011 23:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Sad but inevitable"
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2011-03-12

Actually I had no idea gnome was doing some conscious effort to support anything else than GNU/linux. I do understand they were even having problems standardizing with Ubuntu an Xorg.

Ultimately it's the application developers that choose if they want their package to run on one platform or on many. If the mainstream developers are wanting to make their applications depend on the features that each of them like, instead of what is portable, I am afraid GNOME will end forking according to what each linux distribution out there does.

I would've thought the common unix-like interface held gnome together but who knows ... maybe the resulting forks are even cool in their own way: gnome-redhat, gnome-suse, gnome-ubuntu (and perhaps some other linux's consolidating or disappearing).

The BSDs and Solaris? .. well, they just won't disappear.

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RE[2]: Sad but inevitable
by vodoomoth on Thu 19th May 2011 21:35 in reply to "RE: Sad but inevitable"
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

Obviously, you haven't spotted enough of my previous comments: it turns out that I go against the most common trends here on OSnews. In particular, I don't drink the FOSS kool-aid. And I do think that software patents aren't the viruses some have come to believe.

So I guess my comment wasn't sarcastic enough to not appear as just "bitching".

And no, although I have an admiration for the BSD teams, it only stems from the release notes, the documentation and the looks of their source code. I've fiddled with the FreeBSD and PC-BSD, as well as each and every Ubuntu release. But I'm a Windows user 100% of the time. So no, I'm not the BSD fanboy you wish I were.

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RE[3]: Sad but inevitable
by WorknMan on Thu 19th May 2011 23:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Sad but inevitable"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

So I guess my comment wasn't sarcastic enough to not appear as just "bitching".


That's what the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags are for. They should make that a part of the HTML standard ;)

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RE[3]: Sad but inevitable
by twitterfire on Fri 20th May 2011 20:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Sad but inevitable"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

Obviously, you haven't spotted enough of my previous comments: it turns out that I go against the most common trends here on OSnews. In particular, I don't drink the FOSS kool-aid. And I do think that software patents aren't the viruses some have come to believe.

So I guess my comment wasn't sarcastic enough to not appear as just "bitching".

And no, although I have an admiration for the BSD teams, it only stems from the release notes, the documentation and the looks of their source code. I've fiddled with the FreeBSD and PC-BSD, as well as each and every Ubuntu release. But I'm a Windows user 100% of the time. So no, I'm not the BSD fanboy you wish I were.


Lol, so the poor guy tried to troll and he couldn't. ROFL. ;) )

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RE[2]: Sad but inevitable
by Delgarde on Fri 20th May 2011 05:20 in reply to "RE: Sad but inevitable"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

See, that's the thing about open source... all this 'free love' and 'free choice' shit is all fine and good, but then somebody actually has to sit down and do the work.


Amen to that. It doesn't mean developers should ignore the opinions of non-developers - but ultimately, they're the ones doing the work.

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RE[2]: Sad but inevitable
by sdeber on Fri 20th May 2011 07:06 in reply to "RE: Sad but inevitable"
sdeber Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah, it sounds like that you shot someone in his head, then tell the judge that I did shoot him in his head, but it was him who chose to die.

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