Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th May 2011 18:59 UTC, submitted by fran
Something's - once again - brewing within the GNOME project. While a mere suggestion for now, and by no means any form of official policy, influential voices within the GNOME project are arguing that GNOME should become a full-fledged Linux-based operating system, and that the desktop environment should drop support for other operating systems such as Solaris and the BSDs. I have a feeling this isn't going to go down well with many of our readers.
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RE[2]: Sad but inevitable
by Delgarde on Fri 20th May 2011 01:36
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Another thing about the GNOME community is the way they can't friggin wait to get MS tech into Linux and thereby fall into the trap that is being set by MS. I'm of course referring to Mono and C#. Again, if you friggin want windows you know where to go!
Bullshit. There are a few people in the community who have an interest in Mono/C#, but a) they're a small minority who don't represent anyone but themselves, b) even that minority has long given up on getting the majority to adopt Mono, and c) there's not single line of C# code anywhere in core Gnome.
RE[2]: Sad but inevitable
by somebody on Fri 20th May 2011 15:14
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now, go and read proposal again.
systemd proposed unified interfaces to solve duplication, which doesn't impose new problem, but rather solves one. major reason why gconf came to be is simplification for developer.
another thing you failed to grasp is yours so called text configurations. they would be great ... if there would be one standard to read/write them. look httpd.conf, smb.conf and inittab. hell, there is no standard how you read/write them. enter xml and you get configurations unified. gconf is nothing but text files formated by xml spec.
try looking at s-c-t from ximian and read why it never saw the light.
personally, my biggest wish is that every project would adopt xml and also provide converter from old config standard to xml or back. everyone would be happy, those editing manually and coders who write gui tools.
RE[2]: Sad but inevitable
by twitterfire on Fri 20th May 2011 20:16
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Well, its the direction GNOME has been going anyway!!! Let them!!!
You hit the nail on the head when you said that they have been taking GNOME in the same direction as Windows. If a project insists on implementing the very worst methodologies in the history of computing then maybe that project does not deserve to exist!!!
Here are some examples of abandoning traditional UNIX/Linux methods in favour of more windowsy methods.
They use gconf rather than text formats. What's wrong with that you ask? When the variables in gconf duplicate those values in OS files then it is a problem. Didn't you guys pay attention in your first week of DB theory that whenever values are duplicated that they will always get out of sync. Where I ran into this was when I added users as root using useradd rather than the GNOME utilities. The result was that gdm didn't know about the new users and the new users could't login to gdm.
What is the most retarded thing about Windows? The friggin registry!!! Just go back to windows!!! Leave my UNIX/Linux alone you morons!!!
Another thing about the GNOME community is the way they can't friggin wait to get MS tech into Linux and thereby fall into the trap that is being set by MS. I'm of course referring to Mono and C#. Again, if you friggin want windows you know where to go!
I'm finished my rant now!!!
After that rant I can't see it happening anyway. If it isn't cross platform then the BSD guys will adopt KDE (Yeah!!!). Can you see Oracle putting KDE on Solaris and GNOME on Oracle Linux? Wouldn't they want a unified desktop for both systems? Combined with the abortion that GNOME 3 is turning out to be they would either stick with version 2 or fork the project. Hopefully that would kill it - the sooner the better!
You hit the nail on the head when you said that they have been taking GNOME in the same direction as Windows. If a project insists on implementing the very worst methodologies in the history of computing then maybe that project does not deserve to exist!!!
Here are some examples of abandoning traditional UNIX/Linux methods in favour of more windowsy methods.
They use gconf rather than text formats. What's wrong with that you ask? When the variables in gconf duplicate those values in OS files then it is a problem. Didn't you guys pay attention in your first week of DB theory that whenever values are duplicated that they will always get out of sync. Where I ran into this was when I added users as root using useradd rather than the GNOME utilities. The result was that gdm didn't know about the new users and the new users could't login to gdm.
What is the most retarded thing about Windows? The friggin registry!!! Just go back to windows!!! Leave my UNIX/Linux alone you morons!!!
Another thing about the GNOME community is the way they can't friggin wait to get MS tech into Linux and thereby fall into the trap that is being set by MS. I'm of course referring to Mono and C#. Again, if you friggin want windows you know where to go!
I'm finished my rant now!!!
After that rant I can't see it happening anyway. If it isn't cross platform then the BSD guys will adopt KDE (Yeah!!!). Can you see Oracle putting KDE on Solaris and GNOME on Oracle Linux? Wouldn't they want a unified desktop for both systems? Combined with the abortion that GNOME 3 is turning out to be they would either stick with version 2 or fork the project. Hopefully that would kill it - the sooner the better!
You bark in vain. The reason Gnome devs borrowed strongly from MS is because they have seen more value in things borrowed than in "traditional UNIX/Linux methods". If you think Windows registry is lame, than you must acknowledge than keeping settings in flat text files spread all over the file system is medieval and dumb.
And yes, C# is better for general use than Python and Bash scripting will ever be.
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Well, its the direction GNOME has been going anyway!!! Let them!!!
You hit the nail on the head when you said that they have been taking GNOME in the same direction as Windows. If a project insists on implementing the very worst methodologies in the history of computing then maybe that project does not deserve to exist!!!
Here are some examples of abandoning traditional UNIX/Linux methods in favour of more windowsy methods.
They use gconf rather than text formats. What's wrong with that you ask? When the variables in gconf duplicate those values in OS files then it is a problem. Didn't you guys pay attention in your first week of DB theory that whenever values are duplicated that they will always get out of sync. Where I ran into this was when I added users as root using useradd rather than the GNOME utilities. The result was that gdm didn't know about the new users and the new users could't login to gdm.
What is the most retarded thing about Windows? The friggin registry!!! Just go back to windows!!! Leave my UNIX/Linux alone you morons!!!
Another thing about the GNOME community is the way they can't friggin wait to get MS tech into Linux and thereby fall into the trap that is being set by MS. I'm of course referring to Mono and C#. Again, if you friggin want windows you know where to go!
I'm finished my rant now!!!
After that rant I can't see it happening anyway. If it isn't cross platform then the BSD guys will adopt KDE (Yeah!!!). Can you see Oracle putting KDE on Solaris and GNOME on Oracle Linux? Wouldn't they want a unified desktop for both systems? Combined with the abortion that GNOME 3 is turning out to be they would either stick with version 2 or fork the project. Hopefully that would kill it - the sooner the better!