Linked by David Adams on Sun 22nd May 2011 02:26 UTC
Apple Mac sales in the enterprise during Apple's last fiscal quarter grew a whopping 66 percent, significantly outpacing the rest of the PC market, which grew just 4.5 percent in the enterprise. The data from Apple's previous fiscal quarter was highlighted on Friday by analyst Charlie Wolf with Needham & Company. He said though he originally viewed success in the enterprise as a "one-quarter blip," it now appears to be a "durable platform" for Apple.
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Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

While it is true that PCs tend to be on the cheaper side, if you are developing with C and C++ then actually Macs are cheaper then a PC + MSDN license.

But if you are mainly coding in Java, .Net, Ruby, Python, etc, then the price of the included developer tools does not count that much.

Is there some written licensing rules that forbid use of the free Visual Studio Express tools for professional development ? They don't sound so crippled compared to "sell your arm" professional editions.

Edited 2011-05-22 08:53 UTC

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

Yes there is but who cares?

Then 6 months later.

"Knock Knock"
"The BSA. Open up we are doing an audit"

After they've gone.
"Now what idiot persuared me to allowd those Express Editions to be used? You are FIRED"

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

You can deploy code with the express install ... it is only the academic license they don't allow you to deploy code with.

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Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24


Is there some written licensing rules that forbid use of the free Visual Studio Express tools for professional development ? They don't sound so crippled compared to "sell your arm" professional editions.

Nope, but the express edition is crippled though. No openmp, no profile guided optimization and no link time optimization (perhaps there are more features removed but these are the ones I know of).

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bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

This crippling is to MS's detrement. We write high performance multi threaded software on linux and compile for windows using the express compiler. We don't want visual studio. Any performance hit on their platform is on their heads. That and almost all of our customers run the software on linux anyways. There's a couple of stubborn ones who have more money than sense.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

The professional editions are actually quite cheap.

Only the academic versions of Visual Studio you can deploy production code with.

We had two Copies of VS 2010 ultimate for £100 each. Sql Server 2008 R2 Developer Edition is just over £100.

The most expensive software we use is usually from Adobe.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

The professional versions of VS cost around €1000 per seat.

In Germany it is €796,68 actually
http://www.amazon.de/Microsoft-Visual-Studio-Professional-Englisch/...

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I use them, but they are quite crippled:

- No ATL
- No MFC
- No ALM tools
- No 64bit compilers (you can get them on the free SDK though)
- No Sourcesafe
- No optimizing compilers
- No VS Plugins
- ...

But you can go a long way with the Express editons + Windows SDK.

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sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

I was with you until "No sourcesafe" - that's a GOOD thing.

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