Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jun 2011 18:51 UTC
Internet & Networking It's official now. The signs had been there for a while now. While the west bangs on about the importance of freedom and democracy, they don't actually want anyone to have too much of it. The US, France, and the UK have jointly pretty much declared war on freedom on the web.
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Goofy duffas.
by jefro on Thu 9th Jun 2011 19:55 UTC
jefro
Member since:
2007-04-13

So you are for this???

"'think of the children'-arguments, focussing on things like child pornography, IP infringement"


What kind of a monster are you? That is not freedom. You can't take photos of children and call it a "right".

You can't call theft a freedom.

I have made calls to my US Senators to demand a safe internet. We have somewhat safe movies or at least a rating system and we have rules in place for public sex and nudity. We have rules for what one can say in public. What makes anyone think there is a no mans land that is free from civilized rules.

Anyone who is against these rules is a crook or a pervert.

Edited 2011-06-09 19:57 UTC

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RE: Goofy duffas.
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 9th Jun 2011 20:05 in reply to "Goofy duffas."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

What kind of a monster are you? That is not freedom. You can't take photos of children and call it a "right".


I obviously didn't argue as such. Calm down, take a deep breath, and re-read.

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RE: Goofy duffas.
by righard on Thu 9th Jun 2011 20:14 in reply to "Goofy duffas."
righard Member since:
2007-12-26

Yes, nudity and sex are the most severe hazards of the modern world. Each hour 100.000 people die from seeing films with people without clothes on in it. You are absolutely right for calling such films unsafe. And don't get me started on sex, everybody who commits in such unnatural an act, or depicts it in a film is a pervert.

My parents wanted a civilized world, one without sex, so they never had any.

And violence should also not be allowed in films, it should only be used for bombing counties and people that are opposed to this image of freedom. Because we have the right to be free, and different opinions about the matter shall not be tolerated.

Edited 2011-06-09 20:17 UTC

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by umccullough on Thu 9th Jun 2011 21:09 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

And don't get me started on sex, everybody who commits in such unnatural an act, or depicts it in a film is a pervert.


At least we can take solace knowing that the OP will never be reproducing - because that's an obscene act.

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by justanothersysadmin on Thu 9th Jun 2011 21:19 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
justanothersysadmin Member since:
2011-06-09

Just so you know: I registered for an OSNews account just to say how much I freaking loved your comment!

Ah, mocking satire...

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by bugjacobs on Fri 10th Jun 2011 22:14 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
bugjacobs Member since:
2009-01-03

Remember remember - the eleventh of September !

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RE: Goofy duffas.
by Quazion on Thu 9th Jun 2011 21:11 in reply to "Goofy duffas."
Quazion Member since:
2007-12-04

Ofcourse its starts off with just banning things we all morally agree on we should not do, but before you know more and more is disallowed for the control of power.

Personally I also think its wrong to try and hide the wrong doings, its better to punish people who don't follow the law. People are sick minded, but trying the hide it isn't gonna make it go away.

And if you want to spare your children the groce details of the world get a filter for your private internet connection.

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by justanothersysadmin on Thu 9th Jun 2011 21:23 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
justanothersysadmin Member since:
2011-06-09

Ofcourse its starts off with just banning things we all morally agree on we should not do...


...and the problem starts right there. Let me know when you get consensus from every netizen about things we morally agree on we should not do.

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RE: Goofy duffas.
by marblesbot on Fri 10th Jun 2011 00:25 in reply to "Goofy duffas."
marblesbot Member since:
2009-12-25

There's already a law banning child pornography, idiot! If you can't keep the internet safe for yourself, you don't deserve access. Do you let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch? No, you separate the bad apple and keep the rest of the bunch fresh. Why don't we ban driving since people wreck their cars? How about we ban stairs because somebody could fall! As a matter of fact, let's make a law that says nobody can get out of bed because something they don't like might happen. Of course, you will eventually die in bed. And I'd masturbate until I die anyway!

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by Laurence on Fri 10th Jun 2011 11:38 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

And I'd masturbate until I die anyway!

+1 (both for lulz and because I probably would too)

You've hit the nail on the head though - the greatest threat to ourselves is ourselves. Short of locking everyone in a padded cell, the is no definitive point where "protecting us" and "censoring us" meet.

People get so hysterical about what people could do online, that they forget that punishment is supposed to be reactionary (ie you commit a crime, you get punished) not precautionary (ie everyone gets punished in case someone decides to commit a crime)

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by jefro on Fri 10th Jun 2011 19:41 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
jefro Member since:
2007-04-13

So you are saying because there a law against murder, I should then be allowed to have a grenade or missile?

What exactly is wrong with setting some limits on the web? Why can't parents get a service that is free of stolen movies and porn? It is not about sex at all. I am fine with adult product offered only to adults. I am a big fan of sex.

I am totally for controls that protect copyrighted works. Sure, you guys can't believe it is theft.

Ten's of thousands of people get stolen from each day on the web. What is wrong with blocking crooks?

Various places forbid gambling. What is so wrong with a law the forces the local's to actually travel outside their home to loose money?

Your attitudes show the childish belief of many of the foolish citizens today.

Sad part is, if it were you directly being stolen from or taken advantage of you would be the first to scream to the government.

Too bad for the folks that disagree with me. You will find that the web will be limited. You will get around some of the controls, you may even be held liable for your actions in this world or the next. I will let my stance hold. I believe in a civilized world that is fair to all. Not just fair to some. It is fair to have controls. While we can't stop murders we can impose limits to many things We do that by laws.

I'd say most of you need to learn how to be an adult not a child or parent. Be a good citizen. Take all your stolen movies and music and delete them.

Take your dirty movies that may have been forced on to young girls and delete them.

Mean ain't I?

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RE: Goofy duffas.
by Soulbender on Fri 10th Jun 2011 02:25 in reply to "Goofy duffas."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Uhmm..are you really that dense or are you trolling?
If that's really how you feel maybe you should move to North Korea, there the government make sure you're not exposed to "indecent and corrupting" material.

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by pantheraleo on Fri 10th Jun 2011 13:39 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

Uhmm..are you really that dense or are you trolling?
If that's really how you feel maybe you should move to North Korea, there the government make sure you're not exposed to "indecent and corrupting" material.


So you are arguing that child pornography is OK then? Because given the post your responded to, it certainly sounds like that's the argument you are trying to make. If you honestly think that child porn is OK, I hope they take you away and lock you up.

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RE: Goofy duffas.
by Fergy on Sat 11th Jun 2011 18:49 in reply to "Goofy duffas."
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

I have made calls to my US Senators to demand a safe internet. We have somewhat safe movies or at least a rating system and we have rules in place for public sex and nudity. We have rules for what one can say in public. What makes anyone think there is a no mans land that is free from civilized rules.

We are all for a safe internet which means protected against identity theft, spamming and spoofing. We are all for rules on where you show movies. You don't show a violent movie to kids in a school. And we are all for banning hate speech or speech that induces panic.
BUT
Changing movies and music so that people don't get offended is WRONG. Don't watch it and don't listen to it if you don't like it but don't keep it from other people. If a movie isn't meant for kids then don't show it to kids.
And your strawman of public sex and nudity? The 60s are over man.

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