Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Jun 2011 18:49 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption Oh boy, what do we make of this? We haven't paid that much attention to the whole thing as of yet, but with a recent public statement on why they do what they do, I think it's about time to address this thing. Yes, Lulz Security, the hacking group (or whatever they are) that's been causing quite a bit of amok on the web lately.
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The same Tom?
by Berend de Boer on Fri 17th Jun 2011 19:43 UTC
Berend de Boer
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2005-10-19

Thom: It is in governments' natures to control where it is not needed, to regulate what doesn't need regulating, and to bureaucratise that which is efficient.

Eh this is the same Thom who was so in favour of giving the Dutch government powers to regulate ISPs? Making a few companies illegal providing essential services for users along the way?

I.e. certain companies in The Netherlands provided filtering services for people who chose them as an ISP. But that's now illegal.

But usually people who are against government legislation are for it when they like it. I.e. they are against certain government legislation which is inconvenient for them, but for it when it is convenient.

Thanks Thom for a totally consistent message. But perhaps you have seen the light. Welcome aboard in that case.

Edited 2011-06-17 19:53 UTC

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RE: The same Tom?
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 17th Jun 2011 19:46 in reply to "The same Tom?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

First, learn to spell my name.

Second, you might want to re-read the quoted statement. I'll quote it for you with some clarifying emphasis.

"It is in governments' natures to control where it is not needed, to regulate what doesn't need regulating, and to bureaucratise that which is efficient."

Edited 2011-06-17 19:48 UTC

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RE[2]: The same Thom?
by Berend de Boer on Fri 17th Jun 2011 19:54 in reply to "RE: The same Tom?"
Berend de Boer Member since:
2005-10-19

Sorry Thom, learning.

Ah, the right regulation is in the eye of the beholder!

I was afraid so.

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RE: The same Tom?
by Lennie on Sun 19th Jun 2011 09:11 in reply to "The same Tom?"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Do you mean Solcon can not do filtering anymore ? Eventhough the users want them to do so ? That would be a mistake in the law.

That would also have been a mistake by Solcon as they should have contacted their party or other parties representatives to put an exception in the law. It was very clear that such a law was gonna be created.

The solution to their problems is to start a seperate filtering business.

The ISP can't filter, but they can have a seperate business that puts in filtering at the ISP level and where by the ISP resells the filtering service to the users and bills them accordingly (they just need to make 2 items on their bill).

Edited 2011-06-19 09:24 UTC

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