Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Jun 2011 18:49 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption Oh boy, what do we make of this? We haven't paid that much attention to the whole thing as of yet, but with a recent public statement on why they do what they do, I think it's about time to address this thing. Yes, Lulz Security, the hacking group (or whatever they are) that's been causing quite a bit of amok on the web lately.
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RE[6]: Bah - hacking skills
by Soulbender on Sun 19th Jun 2011 19:18 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Bah - hacking skills"
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

There are lots of law abiding hackers out there to hire or contract.


Is that like being a law abiding bank robber?

Would probably help if the term "hacker" wasn't so ambiguous. Are we talking about hackers who write code or hackers who (try to) break into systems? Two different beasts, same term.

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RE[7]: Bah - hacking skills
by jabbotts on Sun 19th Jun 2011 19:58 in reply to "RE[6]: Bah - hacking skills"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I think my meaning in my original post was quite clear in referring to law abiding Hackers not crackers or criminals. Are you just trying to be cute by intentionally misreading what I wrote to mean criminals just because I talked about Hackers and system security?

And really, how can you claim your sys-admin or infosec team is at it's best if you haven't at least one member who can think outside the box, find creative solutions, try the unexpected and take a detail oriented enthusiasts interest in developing and implementing a solution?

My point stands; if your responsible for system management and security, you should be hiring Hackers not nine to five folks looking only for a pay cheque with no real interest in the job topic outside of work hours. You want the type of person who will go home, duplicate wifi settings using there own router, break into it then report back on how easy/hard it was and how your business system can be improved. You want people who spend all day managing and fixing your systems then go home and play with there own systems for the pure joy of developing skills and learning down to the smallest details (aka. Hackers).

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RE[8]: Bah - hacking skills
by Soulbender on Sun 19th Jun 2011 21:14 in reply to "RE[7]: Bah - hacking skills"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

And really, how can you claim your sys-admin or infosec team is at it's best if you haven't at least one member who can think outside the box, find creative solutions, try the unexpected and take a detail oriented enthusiasts interest in developing and implementing a solution?

My point stands; if your responsible for system management and security, you should be hiring Hackers not nine to five folks looking only for a pay cheque with no real interest in the job topic outside of work hours.


Ok, so you're definition of a hacker is someone who's passionate about his job and thinks out of the box and is not a 9-5 paycheck person? Sure, then you should hire hackers but I'm not so sure that's the definiton most have of "hacker".
What we're talking about here is the media-hyped "hacker" who breaks into other systems and those are not the guys I need on my team. I need creative and skilled engineers, not hot-shot media darlings who's claim to fame is to deface websites.

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