Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Jun 2011 18:49 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption Oh boy, what do we make of this? We haven't paid that much attention to the whole thing as of yet, but with a recent public statement on why they do what they do, I think it's about time to address this thing. Yes, Lulz Security, the hacking group (or whatever they are) that's been causing quite a bit of amok on the web lately.
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RE[4]: The same Thom?
by spudley99 on Mon 20th Jun 2011 12:25 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: The same Thom?"
spudley99
Member since:
2009-03-25

...Since humans are by definition self-centred pricks, they will abuse both a free market as well as a communist system. That's just the cold and harsh reality of this world.


Hmm.. I would consider that to be a bit over-cynical.

I'd say a more accurate way of putting it would be that there is a proportion of humanity who are self-centred pricks and who will abuse whatever system is in place.

The trouble is that this proportion, while a minority, are the ones who end up in charge, and able to screw everyone else.

In fact, if everyone was a power hungry self-centred prick, systems like the free market which play on these attributes may actually work a lot better than they do.

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RE[5]: The same Thom?
by Alfman on Mon 20th Jun 2011 15:49 in reply to "RE[4]: The same Thom?"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

spudley99,


"I'd say a more accurate way of putting it would be that there is a proportion of humanity who are self-centred pricks and who will abuse whatever system is in place.

The trouble is that this proportion, while a minority, are the ones who end up in charge, and able to screw everyone else.

In fact, if everyone was a power hungry self-centred prick, systems like the free market which play on these attributes may actually work a lot better than they do."

Wow, this is extremely insightful.

I've always believed that humanity could do far better for itself if only we'd work together more and ceased using resources actively fighting each other over power/wealth.

At the extreme, we could theoretically automate most of the work humans do today, such that food/shelter/clothing could be provided without human workers. We might only need to work a day/week to pay for extra amenities, with the rest of the time used for leisure/arts/learning/whatever.

Theoretically, there's nothing stopping us from achieving this type of civilization. However, this presupposes that humanity can overcome greed, which maybe it cannot.

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