Linked by lemur2 on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 22:30 UTC
Features, Office The Calligra Office Suite has announced its second snapshot release. The project, which is a fork of KOffice, is building a suite of productivity and creativity applications and is working towards its first formal end-user release due in October. The project is seeking feedback from end users particularly in the area of usability of the GUI. With this snapshot Calligra Office Words is claiming better compatibility with .docx than LibreOffice, and also claims to be approaching the best compatibility with legacy .doc formats.
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Calligra Words' font rendering
by No it isnt on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 08:58 UTC
No it isnt
Member since:
2005-11-14

I check out kword and now Calligra Words from time to time, and it's been a long time since I thought it was 'promising'. The interface doesn't seem to be developed much at all, being overly simplistic while in its default layout wasting more space than any other app and showing less functionality than Abiword (I think it's meant to be more advanced).

The worst thing, though, is the font rendering. It doesn't seem to use the system font rendering, which works fine, but rather uses something completely different, with poor forms and those annoying rainbow patterns you could get back in the old days when LCD screens were as new as anti-aliasing. I can't imagine anyone wanting to work in this.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I check out kword and now Calligra Words from time to time, and it's been a long time since I thought it was 'promising'. The interface doesn't seem to be developed much at all, being overly simplistic while in its default layout wasting more space than any other app and showing less functionality than Abiword (I think it's meant to be more advanced).

The worst thing, though, is the font rendering. It doesn't seem to use the system font rendering, which works fine, but rather uses something completely different, with poor forms and those annoying rainbow patterns you could get back in the old days when LCD screens were as new as anti-aliasing. I can't imagine anyone wanting to work in this.


There has been no formal release, yet, of Calligra Words. There is therefore no basis of comparison, your issues were with KWord.

Incidentally, it was the KWord developer who caused the fork which resulted in Calligra Office.

Calligra Words, in conjunction with "flakes" from other Calligra Suite applications, is far more sophisticated than Abiword.

http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Flake
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/Flake/Accessibility
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/Flake/Connectors
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/Flake/Tools_And_Pointe...

In fact, Calligra Words is closer to DTP than word-processing.

http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=KWord
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=KWord/Master_Documents
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=KWord/Scripting
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/KoText/Text_Plugins
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/KoText/Change_tracking

Waaaaaay more sophisticated than Abiword.

The Calligra Words GUI is indeed being worked on, and in fact bringing polish to the GUI is the main focus of these preview snapshots.

Font rendering in Calligra Words is done by Qt. Qt is KDE infrastructure, it has nothing to do with Calligra Words itself. The issue with Qt font rendering exposed by Calligra Words is fixed in Qt 4.8.

Qt 4.8 is in Technology Preview release status right now.

http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/05/24/technology-preview-of-qt-4-8-no...

Formal release won't be far away, it will certainly occur well before October when the first release of Calligra Words is due out.

Your points are all addressed.

Edited 2011-06-23 09:53 UTC

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Thanks, great reply.

I actually have Calligra Words as packaged for the Archlinux kde-snapshots repository installed (KDE 4.7 beta). I'll take another look when Qt 4.8 is out.

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fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

Waaaaaay more sophisticated than Abiword.


whats your problem with abiword? In many cases I do not need msoffice functionality and work with abiword on windows. It is a good product. It misses collaboration functionality but I use it as a word processor. I am interested on trying calligra on mswindows (or much better reactos as long as the issues with kde on windows are resolved, I never understood why they support vc++, mingw (x)or mingw64 are enough). Yes I am an open source junky but I think I have a (practical) point here.

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Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

Its not using something completely different, it's a bug in Qt making it look terrible. You have to turn off hinting and anti aliasing so it can look "normal". The bug probably will never be fixed as both Calligra and Nokia are throwing the ball at each other since years.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Its not using something completely different, it's a bug in Qt making it look terrible. You have to turn off hinting and anti aliasing so it can look "normal". The bug probably will never be fixed as both Calligra and Nokia are throwing the ball at each other since years.


This issue should be fixed by the release of Qt 4.8.

http://www.calligra-suite.org/news/calligra-suite-the-first-three-m...

Words: the main thing here is the huge effort by Casper Boemann who, often coding until early in the morning, is revamping the text layout engine. The old text layout engine was probably about the worst thing and really didn’t support most of the features users have come to expect of word processors since Word for Windows 2.0. And it wasn’t stable: some documents would make the layout engine go berserk, adding pages or continuously moving content about. The new text layout engine is now progressing nicely and already supports things like nested tables, proper drop caps, real unittesting… The layout engine is also encapsulated in a library now. Now when Qt 4.8 comes out and fixes the font rendering issues — and there’s good hope! — then Calligra Words will be really up to scratch!


(BTW: The text layout issues were probably the very thing that created the Calligra fork).

See also:
http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/14/hint-hint-nudge-nudge-say-no-mo...

Edited 2011-06-24 00:35 UTC

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