Linked by lemur2 on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 22:30 UTC
Features, Office The Calligra Office Suite has announced its second snapshot release. The project, which is a fork of KOffice, is building a suite of productivity and creativity applications and is working towards its first formal end-user release due in October. The project is seeking feedback from end users particularly in the area of usability of the GUI. With this snapshot Calligra Office Words is claiming better compatibility with .docx than LibreOffice, and also claims to be approaching the best compatibility with legacy .doc formats.
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RE: Calligra Words' font rendering
by lemur2 on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 09:45 UTC in reply to "Calligra Words' font rendering"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

I check out kword and now Calligra Words from time to time, and it's been a long time since I thought it was 'promising'. The interface doesn't seem to be developed much at all, being overly simplistic while in its default layout wasting more space than any other app and showing less functionality than Abiword (I think it's meant to be more advanced).

The worst thing, though, is the font rendering. It doesn't seem to use the system font rendering, which works fine, but rather uses something completely different, with poor forms and those annoying rainbow patterns you could get back in the old days when LCD screens were as new as anti-aliasing. I can't imagine anyone wanting to work in this.


There has been no formal release, yet, of Calligra Words. There is therefore no basis of comparison, your issues were with KWord.

Incidentally, it was the KWord developer who caused the fork which resulted in Calligra Office.

Calligra Words, in conjunction with "flakes" from other Calligra Suite applications, is far more sophisticated than Abiword.

http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Flake
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/Flake/Accessibility
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/Flake/Connectors
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/Flake/Tools_And_Pointe...

In fact, Calligra Words is closer to DTP than word-processing.

http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=KWord
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=KWord/Master_Documents
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=KWord/Scripting
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/KoText/Text_Plugins
http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Libs/KoText/Change_tracking

Waaaaaay more sophisticated than Abiword.

The Calligra Words GUI is indeed being worked on, and in fact bringing polish to the GUI is the main focus of these preview snapshots.

Font rendering in Calligra Words is done by Qt. Qt is KDE infrastructure, it has nothing to do with Calligra Words itself. The issue with Qt font rendering exposed by Calligra Words is fixed in Qt 4.8.

Qt 4.8 is in Technology Preview release status right now.

http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/05/24/technology-preview-of-qt-4-8-no...

Formal release won't be far away, it will certainly occur well before October when the first release of Calligra Words is due out.

Your points are all addressed.

Edited 2011-06-23 09:53 UTC

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Thanks, great reply.

I actually have Calligra Words as packaged for the Archlinux kde-snapshots repository installed (KDE 4.7 beta). I'll take another look when Qt 4.8 is out.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Thanks, great reply.


You are more than welcome.

I actually have Calligra Words as packaged for the Archlinux kde-snapshots repository installed (KDE 4.7 beta). I'll take another look when Qt 4.8 is out.


Even in this second preview snapshot I don't believe that the issue with the GUI has been addressed yet. They are still working on it. Some patience is still required.

It should only get better from this point onwards. Right now, apparently, the Calligra suite has more developers working on it than it has ever had in the past.

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fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

Waaaaaay more sophisticated than Abiword.


whats your problem with abiword? In many cases I do not need msoffice functionality and work with abiword on windows. It is a good product. It misses collaboration functionality but I use it as a word processor. I am interested on trying calligra on mswindows (or much better reactos as long as the issues with kde on windows are resolved, I never understood why they support vc++, mingw (x)or mingw64 are enough). Yes I am an open source junky but I think I have a (practical) point here.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

" Waaaaaay more sophisticated than Abiword.
whats your problem with abiword? In many cases I do not need msoffice functionality and work with abiword on windows. It is a good product. It misses collaboration functionality but I use it as a word processor. I am interested on trying calligra on mswindows (or much better reactos as long as the issues with kde on windows are resolved, I never understood why they support vc++, mingw (x)or mingw64 are enough). Yes I am an open source junky but I think I have a (practical) point here. "

I have absolutely no problem with Abiword, it is indeed a good product. It does what it does very well. It is a far better option for people, IMO, than other products of approximately the same capability ... such as Wordpad. Everyone would without a doubt be far better off using Abiword rather than Wordpad.

This was the original poster's comment: "The interface doesn't seem to be developed much at all, being overly simplistic while in its default layout wasting more space than any other app and showing less functionality than Abiword (I think it's meant to be more advanced)."

Calligra Words certainly is more advanced than Abiword. While it is true to say that the existing KWord UI is not very discoverable and that it wastes space, my comment in reply was to point out that Calligra Words is considerably more sophisticated (more capable) than Abiword. In conjunction with the rest of the Calligra suite, it does a lot more. You are not really comparing Apples with Apples. It is like comparing Wordpad to Word ... they aren't even in the same ballpark.

This doesn't mean that Abiword is no good, Abiword is absolutely fine for what it does. It just means that Calligra Words and Abiword don't really compete with one another.

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