Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 22:47 UTC
Internet & Networking So, while The Netherlands just adopted net neutrality, the US is now nearing a comprehensive agreement on a piracy crackdown system. It will include throttling internet speeds, limiting access to e.g. only the top 200 websites, and forced participation in an educational program on copyright. The system has been drafted by the White House, big content, and ISPs. I guess this is the final nail in the coffin for net neutrality in the land of the 'free'.
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gloucestershrubhill
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2010-08-10

I have to agree with modmans2ndcoming. I can't see what NL net-neutrality has to do with US anti-piracy policy. The Dutch will inevitably have their own separate anti-piracy legislation, in whatever form, completely unrelated to their stance on net-neutrality. Surely N-N is about a level playing field between sites and different methods of accessing them, not anything related to IP-theft. Even here, no-body's proposing to, say, block access to certain sites for end-users, just for ISPs to police likely contraband traffic, as in (sadly) the UK.

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RE[3]: Uhh... net neutrality?
by Morgan on Fri 24th Jun 2011 03:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Uhh... net neutrality?"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

You're right, there shouldn't be a comparison between what's going on in the Netherlands and what is going on here in the States, which is why I didn't mention the Netherlands (I know, the parent article did). And network neutrality should never be about "policing" the 'net. However...

Even here, no-body's proposing to, say, block access to certain sites for end-users


That's exactly what they are proposing! One of the provisions of this deal is what I described above, that they would limit access to 200 arbitrary sites, out of the literally billions of web sites in existence. That is such an extreme example of anti-neutrality that it boggles the mind. If you use recent figures for legitimate websites in existence (~2.024B) that comes out to an accused (not convicted!) infringing party being able to see only 0.00000098% of the Web. Not to mention, "the Web" is not the entirety of the Internet, and if the subject is restricted to just those 200 web sites he obviously is also restricted from all of the non-WWW content.

That is why I feel this is a slap in the face to network neutrality in the U.S. Regardless of the lame excuse they came up with regarding IP protection, it's still wrong and highly anti-consumer.

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RE[3]: Uhh... net neutrality?
by WorknMan on Fri 24th Jun 2011 05:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Uhh... net neutrality?"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

I have to agree with modmans2ndcoming. I can't see what NL net-neutrality has to do with US anti-piracy policy. The Dutch will inevitably have their own separate anti-piracy legislation, in whatever form, completely unrelated to their stance on net-neutrality.


Well, maybe not. The entertainment industry in the US (as well as the lawmakers in their back pocket) will realize that fighting piracy is like pissing into the wind, and they're never going to stop it no matter what they try. I understand that they should've been able to figure this out years ago, but they will get there eventually.... once they run out of ideas.

If they get to this point before the Dutch enact any sort of anti-piracy legislation, there will be no point in the Dutch pissing into the wind as well ;)

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