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And if they were burgled would you accept that you are an accessory to the crime? I'm no lawyer but I suspect that's the way it would be viewed...
Edited 2011-06-28 23:39 UTC
...to inform the public that their money is not safe, so they can transfer it somewhere else, somewhere safe. If my bank has unsafe locks and were unwilling to do something about it, I'd rather know about it so I can secure my money.
A thousand times: YES. Time and time again, companies have shown they will not fix security issues unless they are disclosed or threatened to be exposed. Security researchers are not the only ones that look for exploits. In fact most exploits are found after they have been exploited ( without any public disclosure by a security researcher). The public disclosure ensures that all stake holders have a better idea of the risks and can make better business decisions based on that; ie rewarding companies with good security and punishing those without good security.
I know I've posted this a few times here already, but since the same conversation keeps coming up here it is again:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/debating_full_d.html
Edited 2011-06-29 05:57 UTC
Apple has known since April 25th. People with criminal intent probably found this on there own and already know about it too. Apple's customers are the last to find out about it and they are the one's who suffer as a result of any criminals exploiting these issues.
The group discovered problems without breaking laws.
The group disclosed vulnerabilities to Apple directly so they could address them.
The group disclosing those vulnerabilities to the public after the grace period given to Apple allows the public to mitigate the risks or at least accept them with informed concent until Apple fixes the problems.
It is indeed ethical. Unethical would have been exploiting the vulnerabilities for criminal gain, not reporting them to Apple and not reporting them to the public when Apple failed to address them for the responsible protection of it's customers.
Look at it this way. I build a tree-house for my kids. Someone sees that parts or coming loose; kids could fall through the floor or be hit by falling parts. They report it to me "When I picked Jimmy up after the play date the other day, I noticed that the old tree-house needs some work."
Two months later I've done nothing to address the risk of injury. "look, I'm not comfortable with Jimmy visiting to play with your kids if they are going to be in or around that tree-house."
I still do nothing so they start telling friends who also have kids that come over to play with my kids.
One might call this responsible parenting versus alling children to get hurt by ignoring these known problems.
The real problem is that companies like Apple have more motivation to avoid the expense of fixing the "tree-house". It often takes public disclosure and proof of concept documentation to convince such companies that there is indeed risk of there customers being hurt when they come over to play. At minimum, customers can be aware of possible injury and take steps to protect themselves.





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Not sure that I can see how this is responsible, or ethical.
Scenario: You discover that your local bank has a dodgy lock on their front door and you tell them about it but they don't fix it within your allowed timeframe. Do you then run an ad in the national newspaper effectively telling all the crooks who they can burgle and how to do it?
Edited 2011-06-28 23:29 UTC