Linked by martini on Wed 29th Jun 2011 09:50 UTC
OS/2 and eComStation OpenJDK had been released as GA for OS/2 and eComStaion. This allows eCS-OS2 users to run modern Java apps on their platform. The development is open source and had been in part sponsored by donations of the community.
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Good to see
by cmchittom on Wed 29th Jun 2011 11:11 UTC
cmchittom
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2011-03-18

I still think that eComStation is ridiculously overpriced[1] to encourage adoption by anyone other than legacy OS/2 users. Still, I'm pleased to see this release of OpenJDK for the platform, particularly since sponsered by donations: if the community can do that, maybe there's long-term hope for eComStation after all.

[1] http://www.osnews.com/permalink?474317

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RE: Good to see
by orfanum on Wed 29th Jun 2011 13:18 in reply to "Good to see"
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2006-06-02

I agree completely: I think there used to be an educational discount for my region, which seems to have gone. In terms of their offical suppliers, information also appears to be outdated (I know you can download verson 2 but some of us still have a penchant for the physcial, and for the UK at least you only get pricing info on V1.2 http://www.ecomstation.co.uk/html/prices.html)

Poking around some of the other European suppliers (German language) sites indicates that a student/home user rate is available:

http://www.shop.appfox.de/Betriebssysteme/eComStation/eComStation-2...

which isn't *too* bad (esp. since you have up to 5 licences), but still high enough to put me off personally.

If I were Serenity Systems I would be doing a lot more to get information about my product out that was current and more easily understood (is there still a V2 upgrade from Warp 3, at all, as there was for 1.2? If not, why not - a clear explanation would be nice).

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RE[2]: Good to see
by cmchittom on Wed 29th Jun 2011 15:11 in reply to "RE: Good to see"
cmchittom Member since:
2011-03-18

Poking around some of the other European suppliers (German language) sites indicates that a student/home user rate is available:


You must not have read the original comment I linked to. ;)

Yes, there's a "Home and Student" edition, available for $149—it's this edition that I was referring to as "ridiculously overpriced" (even though it's less than the business edition). People who want a work OS will just spend the extra $50 and buy Windows 7. People who want to play with an OS will download one of the free ones.

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RE[2]: Good to see
by Tom9729 on Thu 30th Jun 2011 03:10 in reply to "RE: Good to see"
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2008-12-09

The cost may not be high if you divide it up by the number of licenses you get, but that doesn't mean I'd be willing to pay for all of them when I only (hypothetically) need one.

In my opinion eCS is really shooting themselves in the foot by not having a cheap/free student version. They could still make money off of the legacy OS/2 people, while at the same time hopefully getting some new people interested in using and potentially developing for eCS.

I know the price issue seems to come up in the comments every time there's an eComStation post, so I apologize if I am just beating a dead horse. ;)

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RE: Good to see
by bassbeast on Sat 2nd Jul 2011 03:28 in reply to "Good to see"
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2007-11-11

That is because the product is not FOR you or general users, it is for financial institutions that were using OS/2 and believe me they have the money.

And frankly I'd say that is a good thing too as the last thing eComstation needs to do is to try to compete in the general OS market. Not only is there a truly insane amount of hardware to support unless they decided to "do an Apple" and release their own machines, but frankly their OS is obviously 90s tech in a 21st century bling bling world.

Still I can see why some wanted Java ported as Java is still pretty big in financial circles so I'm happy for them. But there is simply no way for eComstation to compete in today's market, not with Windows 7, OSX lion, and of course a bazillion Linux distros all for free. Better they stick to their niche which is obviously still making them money after all these years or they wouldn't still be doing it.

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RE[2]: Good to see
by cmchittom on Sat 2nd Jul 2011 11:31 in reply to "RE: Good to see"
cmchittom Member since:
2011-03-18

That is because the product is not FOR you or general users, it is for financial institutions that were using OS/2 and believe me they have the money.


You might be right—though personally I believe that such an approach would be incredibly short-sighted, since it would guarantee that their revenue could only go down as financial institutions transition to more widely-supported OS's (most ATMs in the US, at least, have already gone from OS/2 to Windows XP Embedded, from what I understand). However, I think you're wrong for one simple reason: if eComStation is only "for financial institutions that were using OS/2," why offer a Home and Student Edition at all? Generally, when businesses offer something for sale, they really do want to sell it, strangely enough.

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RE[2]: Good to see
by pantheraleo on Sat 2nd Jul 2011 14:38 in reply to "RE: Good to see"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

That is because the product is not FOR you or general users, it is for financial institutions that were using OS/2 and believe me they have the money.


Truth be told, there are very few financial institutions that are still running OS/2 either, with the exception of a few very old ATMs.

Try a job search on Dice for OS/2 and see how many results you get. And of the four results that even mention OS/2, how many of those actually look like OS/2 is relevant, and not just part of a long laundry list of generic skills they copied for their job description?

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