Linked by martini on Wed 29th Jun 2011 09:50 UTC
OS/2 and eComStation OpenJDK had been released as GA for OS/2 and eComStaion. This allows eCS-OS2 users to run modern Java apps on their platform. The development is open source and had been in part sponsored by donations of the community.
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RE: Java apps?
by twitterfire on Wed 29th Jun 2011 15:42 UTC in reply to "Java apps?"
twitterfire
Member since:
2008-09-11

Years ago, java desktop apps looked ugly and slow on a Windows desktop. Ever since, I've pretty much avoided anything I knew was written in Java.

What are things like nowadays?


Still ugly and slow. At least the apps that I tested myself, namely Vuze, Open Office and Eclipse.

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RE[2]: Java apps?
by noisedeli on Wed 29th Jun 2011 16:28 in reply to "RE: Java apps?"
noisedeli Member since:
2011-06-29

Is OpenOffice written in Java? I thought it was written in C++.

And I don't agree that Eclipse is slow. I use it as my primary IDE (even for non-Java development) and love it. No, it won't set any speed records, but what IDE does when you include all of its plugins?

Regarding the subject of the article: I loved OS/2 way back, and still have copies of Connect and Warp lying around. Maybe I'll set them up again and install Java.

Nah...

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RE[2]: Java apps?
by pantheraleo on Wed 29th Jun 2011 17:23 in reply to "RE: Java apps?"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

Still ugly and slow. At least the apps that I tested myself, namely Vuze, Open Office and Eclipse.


OpenOffice is not written in Java. It's written in C++. It has Java dependencies only for scripting purposes.

And as far as Eclipse... You started up Visual Studio .NET lately? All IDEs are slow.

Blaming Java for this is just ignorance, or anti-Java sentiment on your part.

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RE[3]: Java apps?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 29th Jun 2011 18:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Java apps?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Kdevelop... nice and fast!

But seriously, Java GUI's are pretty bad. I can't think of a good one. I was really hoping that Java on osx would be insanely great due to the closer integration, but they didn't really keep the development of it. Now I believe they've punted Java back to Oracle to develop for the system instead of tweaking it specifically for OSX.

Edited 2011-06-29 18:53 UTC

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RE[3]: Java apps?
by werterr on Sat 2nd Jul 2011 20:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Java apps?"
werterr Member since:
2006-10-03

That's not really true, just the fact that other IDE's are slow as well does not justify that Eclipse is slow. (And yes I think it's slow... Komodo IDE / PyCharm (based on IntelliJ) are all faster.

Also I do still think most java apps are slow... but that's not the worst.

In my experience (on Linux) java desktop applications are the only onces that can actually kill my desktop nowadays...

This goes for Eclipse (SWT), JDownloader (SWING?) and others..

The fact that they cannot seem to play nice with multiple screens, kill compiz every so often, mess with focus, steal focus with focus-follows-mouse... all means that I still tent to avoid java as the plague ;)

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