Linked by Kaj de Vos on Tue 5th Jul 2011 17:54 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS Red is a new programming language inspired by REBOL, but compiled and open source. The language is currently being bootstrapped by first implementing a lower level dialect, in which the high level, dynamic language will be written. This C class dialect for systems programming, Red/System, has reached beta status after only half a year of development. It now supports using dynamic libraries on Syllable. Also, a new version of Syllable Desktop's FTP client, Transferrer, was released (screenshot accessing Syllable Server).
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RE[2]: almost a fork (2)
by anonymkous8756 on Sat 9th Jul 2011 12:24 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by cipri"
anonymkous8756
Member since:
2011-06-19

As i said in other thread,
No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)

I'm trying to solve some problems, there exist more than 240 makefiles, the API is poorly documented, the kernel, also has a poor documentation. If someone wants to clean a little all that mess, i've created a google code project with my effort in to make a better documentation (really, i have no hope, but a lot of energy)

http://code.google.com/p/wave-os/

The very first i want to do is to update the building script, create.sh, because i not just want to build the whole system in a straightforward way, but also to assemble the whole iso and then burn first a copy of the new iso and then an installation cd.

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RE[3]: almost a fork (2)
by cipri on Sat 9th Jul 2011 13:22 in reply to "RE[2]: almost a fork (2)"
cipri Member since:
2007-02-15

As i said in other thread,
No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)


I dont want to say something bad, but you really waste your time and effort. Syllable is as good as dead. On top of that, it has a lot of bugs and very deep problems. Haiku is beating syllable in all domains (posix, hardware, software,..). Now recently Haiku got a payed full time developer, and also just recently somebody donated 10.000 dollar.
I know kaj told you a lot of lies related to haiku, but I can really can give you the advice not so spend your time with syllable.
Syllable was already declared by Thom (osnews owner) to be dead. And he had a good appreciation, even he didnt know the "internals".

There are now more than 2 years, since the last release, and a new release is even not in sight. Most developers are gone, even the leader disappeared. The last development build is nearly 2 years old too. Taking all that facts together, your "alarm bells" don't ring? What can you expect?
Syllable will remain "quasi-dead", and I dont expect much more than some osnews articles which say: "script xy is working on syllable correctly", "a new boot-option was added to the menu", "keyboard navigation was enabled", "some sdl games have been build by a user", "some bugs in transferrer were fixed".
That's what I expect from syllable.

Edited 2011-07-09 13:34 UTC

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RE[3]: almost a fork (2)
by Vanders on Sat 9th Jul 2011 17:44 in reply to "RE[2]: almost a fork (2)"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)


The build system for Syllable (Builder) is actually pretty damn good.

I'm trying to solve some problems, there exist more than 240 makefiles


Well, yes, there will be. Building an entire OS requires building a lot of components. Note that the ancient recursive-Makefile based build system was replaced long, long ago with Builder.

The very first i want to do is to update the building script, create.sh, because i not just want to build the whole system in a straightforward way, but also to assemble the whole iso and then burn first a copy of the new iso and then an installation cd.


I'm not sure if you're aware of the existing build scripts: http://syllable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/syllable/syllable/system... ? You install Syllable, run start.sh to install the additional build components and then build everything by running start.sh. Once the build is complete you can use build-cd.sh, build-vm.sh or build-upgrade.sh scripts to create installable media. It's really pretty simple.

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RE[4]: almost a fork (2)
by anonymkous8756 on Sat 9th Jul 2011 18:48 in reply to "RE[3]: almost a fork (2)"
anonymkous8756 Member since:
2011-06-19

"No new code, no fork, just more documentation and a clean sh build script without ruby, rebol crap (nothing personal about rebol, just want a cleaner compile way)


The build system for Syllable (Builder) is actually pretty damn good.

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Yes, my effort is in order to achieve a more standard build system, in my opinion, to use builder is a way to get more "bloat". just my 2 cents. The other topics i mentioned are the poor documentation in the mediaserver, appserver, and specially, "registrar". Not to mention the kernel also with poor documentation.

To CIPRI, Haiku has some good points over many HobbyOSes, but my effort is to offer a product in that world, exactly, hobbyOSes (a topic covered by the "hype" in Syllable, adding more features without simplifying the install process, without being capable to self compile..).

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