Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Jul 2011 21:14 UTC
Apple Petty Apple is petty. Amazon, Kobo, and others have changed their applications to conform to Apple's App Store rules, and if there's one word that describes the situation these booksellers are in, it's petty. Still, it's leading to good things: Kobo has announced it's going to bypass the App Store by writing an HTML5 e-reader for iOS (and thus, for other HTML5-capable mobile devices).
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RE: This is SO hard
by BallmerKnowsBest on Wed 27th Jul 2011 17:17 UTC in reply to "This is SO hard"
BallmerKnowsBest
Member since:
2008-06-02

Wow, as an iPhone user I am so frustrated. This is SOOO hard. I have to use a web browser (Safari, Firefox, iCab/whatever I have installed on my iPhone) to buy a book on the Kindle/Nook/whatever website, and then when I launch my Kindle/Nook/whatever application that book is magically there so I can read it. Wow! That was so hard to do! I feel so hobbled and my apps are so crippled that they just almost do not function at all any more.

The iPhone is going DOWN because of this, I just know it.


Sweet merciful crap, get some new material already. If you're going to rely so heavily on obviously fallacious arguments, at least try for some variety instead of ALWAYS resorting to reductio ad absurdum & hand-waving melodrama.

Good grief, people, when I woke up this morning the planet was still turning, despite this horrible thing happening. Amazing.


So the only problems that matter are those that literally impede the planet's rotation? Congrats, you've just preemptively invalidated nearly every complaint you could ever possibly make... about anything.

(See? Two can play at the "ridiculously stupid exaggerations" game.)

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RE[2]: This is SO hard
by lucas_maximus on Wed 27th Jul 2011 17:46 in reply to "RE: This is SO hard"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

TBH, he was just pointing out the work around was soo fucking easy that Thom had blown it out of proportion ...

Yay ... anyone who makes anti apple comments gets voted up for shit like "Apple is twisted" ... however someone does a little sarcasm and makes light of it and they get down modded to hell.

Group think ...

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RE[3]: This is SO hard
by Morgan on Thu 28th Jul 2011 11:33 in reply to "RE[2]: This is SO hard"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

TBH, he was just pointing out the work around was soo fucking easy that Thom had blown it out of proportion ...


Except it's not exactly easy compared to the method on Android (and Blackberry/WP7/webOS for some apps). For example: On my Android device I have the Kindle reading app. From within the app, I can browse for books, buy books, and download them. I never have to leave the app, and as soon as the book is purchased and synced (usually just a few seconds on either "4G" or WiFi) I can start reading.

On the iPhone/iPod touch I have to open Safari, go to Amazon (and log in if not already), resize the page to suit my screen, find a link for the Kindle store, resize the page again, search, resize, read a summary about the book (possibly dragging the screen around to accomplish this), zoom out to find the purchase button, tap it, tell it to sync to my iDevice, go back to the Springboard and open the Kindle app. This frustrating process is probably less laborious on the iPad due to the screen size. But it's still a hassle compared to just buying through the reader app, which (on other devices) already has an integrated store perfectly adjusted for the screen, and no need to switch apps.

And I'm not making that process up. I did exactly that on an iPod touch and it was annoying as hell. It's much easier to just use iBooks since it works the same way Kindle reader does on Android devices. Do you see now why this might be a big deal for a lot of folks, especially those who are not technically inclined (the target iDevice market)? To them, "Kindle on iPhone is hard, I'll just use iBooks" which automatically makes Apple money and possibly turns a person off of Kindle altogether. Smart, but shitty tactics if you ask me.

Yay ... anyone who makes anti apple comments gets voted up for shit like "Apple is twisted" ... however someone does a little sarcasm and makes light of it and they get down modded to hell.


It truly depends on the article at hand. I've seen on more than one occasion those of us who like Apple products (raising my hand here) get modded down for expressing that sentiment. Thom himself gets accused of being an Apple fanboy in nearly every thread that the company is mentioned, but I think he is a jaded former fan if anything.

Group think ...


Because a lot of us don't agree with you this week? That's life; one day there will be a discussion here that goes along exactly with your way of thinking, and you will get all butthurt because one person doesn't think the way everyone else, including you, does. It goes both ways, my friend.

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RE[3]: This is SO hard
by BallmerKnowsBest on Thu 28th Jul 2011 13:06 in reply to "RE[2]: This is SO hard"
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

TBH, he was just pointing out the work around was soo fucking easy that Thom had blown it out of proportion ...


And good thing that Apple fanboys aren't known for harping on about minor usability differences, otherwise the comment would have been hypocritical to boot.

Yay ... anyone who makes anti apple comments gets voted up for shit like "Apple is twisted" ... however someone does a little sarcasm and makes light of it and they get down modded to hell.


Or maybe it got modded down because it was an obvious cop-out by a well-known fanboy, trying to ridicule & dismiss a criticism of Apple (rather than actually address it). And given how fond iFanboys are of that tactic, it could practically be a dictionary definition.

Group think ...


Yes, it certainly is... the delusions/fantasies of persecution that iFanboys are prone to, that is.

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RE[2]: This is SO hard
by Lennie on Wed 27th Jul 2011 22:39 in reply to "RE: This is SO hard"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Actually, Apple doesn't allow Firefox, iCab/whatever on their phone.

Just Firefox Home, which uses Safari and just gets your bookmarks from 'the cloud' where your Firefox stored it with Firefox Sync and Opera Mini which uses Opera's proxy-servers to generated interactive-images of webpages.

There is only one browser on iPhone and iPad, that is Safari (AFAIK, I don't own such a device so I didn't check. This is just want I read/know about).

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RE[3]: This is SO hard
by _txf_ on Thu 28th Jul 2011 00:14 in reply to "RE[2]: This is SO hard"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

There is only one browser on iPhone and iPad, that is Safari (AFAIK, I don't own such a device so I didn't check. This is just want I read/know about).


Actually I think Opera mini uses the presto engine ( they did have a massive campaign daring apple to block them).

Another browser is Skyfire (whose claim to fame is being Opera mini but with flash).

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RE[3]: This is SO hard
by daveak on Thu 28th Jul 2011 19:57 in reply to "RE[2]: This is SO hard"
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2008-12-29