Linked by David Adams on Fri 5th Aug 2011 16:38 UTC, submitted by tjavailable
Linux Linux on the desktop seems to be the perennial second class citizen, but with Adobe's upcoming 64 Bit Flash 11 beta, Linux is getting a seat at the adults' table. It's being released for Windows, Mac, and Linux simultaneously.
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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sat 6th Aug 2011 01:26 UTC
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I really do hope they fix the bugs that Flash has with Lion - play a video using Flash an on the rare occasion the whole screen freezes yet you can move the cursor around (but can't click on anything) thus forcing one to do a hard reset. It really does piss me off give that Adobe has had a good amount of time to prepare for this - Apple made it known over a year ago regarding the new Webkit2 structure, several betas have been issued and an RTM that sat there for 3 weeks where Adobe could have focused all resources solely on that one issue as to make it in time.

I really do wish that maybe an alternative company can rise to replace Adobe because right now their products are completely and utterly shit - their latest rip off being CS5.5 and ceasing to support CS5 customers. In all due respects I've taken the jump and now using Pixelmator, OmniGraffle Pro, Hype and BBEdit - it may not have the Adobe pixie dust but at least they've been written from day one on Mac OS X.

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by broken_symlink on Sat 6th Aug 2011 01:49 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
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2005-07-06

My system has been getting really hot when I use flash on lion. I never had this problem in leopard. I skipped snow leopard, because leopard was working fine for me.

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sat 6th Aug 2011 01:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

My system has been getting really hot when I use flash on lion. I never had this problem in leopard. I skipped snow leopard, because leopard was working fine for me.


Interesting, have you run iStat Pro to see whether it is the GPU or CPU getting hot? it would be interesting to see what the hold up is.

What are your system specs? (model etc.)

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by Neolander on Sat 6th Aug 2011 08:29 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
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2010-03-08

I really do hope they fix the bugs that Flash has with Lion - play a video using Flash an on the rare occasion the whole screen freezes yet you can move the cursor around (but can't click on anything) thus forcing one to do a hard reset.

I'd argue that if a random process running in user mode manages to crash the system this way (or if Flash needs more than normal user mode privileges to do its job), something's deeply wrong with the OSX graphics stack (or at least the version supplied in Lion). I'm used to see this kind of crashes on Linux distros, not on "professional" OSs that are sold in bundle with hardware for a hefty price.

Edited 2011-08-06 08:30 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by _txf_ on Sat 6th Aug 2011 11:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
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I'd argue that if a random process running in user mode manages to crash the system this way (or if Flash needs more than normal user mode privileges to do its job), something's deeply wrong with the OSX graphics stack (or at least the version supplied in Lion). I'm used to see this kind of crashes on Linux distros, not on "professional" OSs that are sold in bundle with hardware for a hefty price.


Actually Lion is quite heavily sandboxed. Even video playback is heavily sandboxed. I imagine that flash has been sandboxed in most browsers for quite a while.

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sun 7th Aug 2011 00:44 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I'd argue that if a random process running in user mode manages to crash the system this way (or if Flash needs more than normal user mode privileges to do its job), something's deeply wrong with the OSX graphics stack (or at least the version supplied in Lion). I'm used to see this kind of crashes on Linux distros, not on "professional" OSs that are sold in bundle with hardware for a hefty price.


The system obviously hasn't crashed if I am able to move the cursor around and people with similar problems can ssh - the issue is related to the application itself. If something runs in user space and affects something else that runs in user space then the issue is with the application going rogue and the vendor failing to fix it.

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