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Google InfoWorld's Neil McAllister questions whether slowing product development, legal woes, and rising bureaucracy will signal trying times ahead for Google. "With Google's rapid growth have come new challenges. It faces intense competition in all of its major markets, even as it enters new ones. Its newer initiatives have often struggled to reach profitability. It must answer multiple ongoing legal challenges, to say nothing of antitrust probes in the United States and Europe. Privacy advocates accuse it of running roughshod over individual rights. As a result, it's becoming more cautious and risk-averse. But worst of all, as it grows ever larger and more cumbersome, it may be losing its appeal to the highly educated, impassioned workers that power its internal knowledge economy." Note from Thom: Are Apple's Microsoft's Google's days behind it? I don't think you can call yourself a technology giant without a '[...] is dying'-article.
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Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Anyway all this comment about Pagerank is just a pedantic quibble - it doesn't address the issue of Googles hypocrisy and it's cavalier attitude to other people's data, information and property.


What's hypocritical about it? You can come up with alternate universes until the troops come home, but these are the facts.

- Google has never sued anyone with patent and/or trademark infringement, has never threatened anyone to do so, and has never shown any intention to do so, let alone to squash competition.

- Apple is suing countless companies over patent and trademark infringement, has threatened to do so countless times, all to squash competition, in a coordinated efforts with the other companies in the anti-Google cartel.

Those are the facts. You can come up with " what-ifs" all you want - but when it comes to Apple, we don't have to resort to "what-ifs", and that's what bothers most of us.

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MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Google uses it's ad fortune to offer stuff for free, destroying markets.

Apple is the most sued company.

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

- Google has never sued anyone with patent and/or trademark infringement, has never threatened anyone to do so, and has never shown any intention to do so, let alone to squash competition.


If Google had no intention to ever sue anyone why did they bid for the Nortel Patents. Merely owning the patents would active nothing. If Google intended to acquire the patents for defensive purposes (which is what they said) how could patents be used defensively without suing or threatening to sue anyone?

- Apple is suing countless companies over patent and trademark infringement, has threatened to do so countless times, all to squash competition, in a coordinated efforts with the other companies in the anti-Google cartel.

Those are the facts. You can come up with " what-ifs" all you want - but when it comes to Apple, we don't have to resort to "what-ifs", and that's what bothers most of us.


Let's stick to the facts you say and then prattle on about an imaginary 'anti-Google cartel'. What is the evidence for this cartel, what product is such a cartel protecting? This is just Google PR ingested by gullible people hypnotised by Google's distribution of a few free baubles and regurgitated whole. Please.

Apple isn't suing Google because Google was careful not to infringe Apple patents in it's own branded handsets. Some Android phone makers have copied design elements that are specifically and clearly covered by Apple patents and Apple are suing. Good. Intellectual theft is just that - theft.

Microsoft's core business is under attack by Google in a different arena and has decided to counterattack through its patent portfolio. I don't care who wins that one but what did Google expect.? Did Google think it could use it's huge monopoly income to deliberately attack other large companies core businesses through giving away free stuff and not expect a fight? What planet do they live on? This is a grown up world and all Google can do is whine and complain when companies they attack don't roll over and die but actually counterattack.

Reflecting Google's core company cultural belief that all the worlds knowledge belongs to them and can be rendered worthless to everyone else except Google they decided quite deliberately (and the evidence is in the public domain even if Google want to use a legal technicality to get it neutered) to not bother getting a Java licence. Arrogant idiots. They will will probably lose to Oracle. Good. Intellectual theft is just that - theft.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

If Google had no intention to ever sue anyone why did they bid for the Nortel Patents. Merely owning the patents would active nothing. If Google intended to acquire the patents for defensive purposes (which is what they said) how could patents be used defensively without suing or threatening to sue anyone?


Oh come one, don't make it seem as if using force defensively is the same as using it offensively. That's utterly idiotic, and you know it. I have no issues with a company using patents defensively, much in the same way I don't have any issues with, say, shop owners in London using violence to protect their shops from being looted.

Let's stick to the facts you say and then prattle on about an imaginary 'anti-Google cartel'. What is the evidence for this cartel, what product is such a cartel protecting?


Look at the consortia buying the Novell and Nortel patents. Look at the curious simultaneous lawsuits. Look at the fact that these companies make up the old boys network using legal means to keep out newcomers. Look at the close friendship between Ellison and Jobs. Denying there's a concerted effort going on to attack Android at this point in time is laughable.

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Not2Sure Member since:
2009-12-07

Google has never sued anyone with patent and/or trademark infringement, has never threatened anyone to do so, and has never shown any intention to do so, let alone to squash competition.


Yet again, your version of the facts do not match reality. Google like any holder has engaged in aggressive enforcement of its trademarks (both Google and Android) in order to combat infringement, dilution, and bad faith registrations. Even ChillingEffects has several C&D letters threatening legal action under several statutes and implementing economic sanctions at its disposal (removal from AdWords and Android Marketplace) in its database (search for Google as sender).

They, like most large organizations, have a dedicated Google Trademark Enforcement Team. Perhaps you could inform yourself with data rather than anecdotes and ask them for summaries of their C&D and actual filings over the past ten years or so: mailto:TM_enforce@google.com

I doubt they will bother to respond, but you never know. Or just keep ranting and raving, whatevs. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

I don't really consider their actions in this regard problematic; not to aggresively protect their marks would be irresponsible to their shareholders, although the extent to which Google has gone to prevent generization of "googling" may border on "evil".

Regardless, you probably should rein in your rhetoric.

Edited 2011-08-10 09:24 UTC

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