Linked by David Adams on Tue 16th Aug 2011 16:48 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Who is Microsoft fooling? Other than on the desktop, Linux is eating its lunch, and it's only going to get worse for Microsoft."
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RE[3]: Who cares
by Anonymous Penguin on Tue 16th Aug 2011 21:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Who cares"
Anonymous Penguin
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2005-07-06

I recall "year of desktop Linux" being mainly a media buzz phrase of the early 2000's


In 2003 there were for instance Libranet or SUSE 9.0 which were better than XP from virtually every point of view. Linux lag behind only when it came to proprietary plugins.
There were other great distros, Mandrake 9.1, Red Hat derivatives (anybody remembers JAMD Linux?)
I believe 2003 was the year of desktop Linux.
But then things began to go horribly wrong.
First of all the Ubuntu buzz. Come on, a distro based off something (Debian Sid) which is unstable by name and by nature? And the minimalistic approach? And the ugly look? That, among others, killed the SUSE or Mandrake boxes, which were an absolute pleasure to own.
Later came KDE 4, and eventually GNOME 3.
It is Linux which has committed suicide on the desktop, not MS which has won. For me Windows 7 is still crap, to be used very occasionally because a few programs don't have an exact equivalent in other OSes. And no, Crossover isn't a solution either.
In the meantime I have moved permanently to OS X, as have many others who know better than me, people who used to be Linux or *BSD developers or writers.

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RE[4]: Who cares
by tidux on Tue 16th Aug 2011 23:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Who cares"
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2011-08-13

You jumped too early. It's a pretty cool time in alternative DEs and WMs, since a lot of what you used to need GNOME or KDE for is being re-implemented in code that doesn't need 400MB of dependencies. Some good examples are udisks for easier mounting, ConsoleKit for multiseat support, cpufreqd and cpufrequtils for power management,and wicd and its two UIs (ncurses and Gtk) for easier network management. Lash those together with a good window manager like Window Maker, Fluxbox, or Awesome, and you have a pretty complete desktop environment without all the cruft. Three years ago I used to lament the fact that I had to use GNOME to get more than 90 minutes of battery life on a laptop capable of twice that. Now I can get my charge's worth without even running startx if I'm feeling extra-nerdy.

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RE[5]: Who cares
by Anonymous Penguin on Tue 16th Aug 2011 23:52 in reply to "RE[4]: Who cares"
Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06

You jumped too early. It's a pretty cool time in alternative DEs and WMs, since a lot of what you used to need GNOME or KDE for is being re-implemented in code that doesn't need 400MB of dependencies.


I actually agree with that, I almost said it in my previous post. The best distros seem to be the ones which don't use GNOME or KDE: Knoppix, Sabayon Xfce, Ultimate Edition 3.0 "Gamers"...

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