Linked by AdamW on Tue 23rd Aug 2011 22:10 UTC
Fedora Core Fedora 16 Alpha is released today, featuring GNOME 3.1.4 with a unified input indicator for keyboard layouts and input methods, KDE 4.7, GRUB 2 on new installations (with GPT disk labels) and several other major changes. You can download it now. Remember to read the important information in the release notes and common bugs page.
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fast_rizwaan
Member since:
2010-09-01

You do realize that we don't have all the different hardware? We test on our own systems and I don't have a Nvidia system for instance and 3D is Nouveau is very much specific to the hardware in question.

I can not believe that no fedora developer has nvidia display card? Nouveau is much sponsored by redhat/fedora. As most L-users know, to have good 3d support nvidia/ati should be used in linux.

Since it is not a known issue, it is not in that list. If you file a bug report, the developer can track it down and fix it. If you rather complain here, feel free to.

What I am complaining is, the lack of basic "boot-testing" up to the full desktop loading, with one of the popular display cards (GPUs), before releasing the alpha or so.


The assertion that it can be found by basic testing is factually incorrect since this test releases went through several test and releases candidates and noone has reported the bug apparently. If you follow Fedora test list, this would be obvious and you can find the list of releases at

https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/

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Appreciate that, but as a new user to fedora, and to check out gnome 3.1.4, when I ran live-cd, I was welcomed with a crash, on a standard nvidia gpu, which is pretty much common in linux desktop machines and very well supported by nouveau and mesa.

I removed redhat from my system when redhat (was it redhat 8?) stopped mp3, libdvdcss, etc. support, and switched to slackware, then to frugalware then to chakra and finally to archlinux.

I'm afraid, the live-cd crash disappointed me and even after installing it on the disk, I got no 3d by installing nouveau drivers which has discouraged me from going deeper into fedora 16.

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RE[5]: no 3d with nvidia 9800gt
by Rahul on Fri 26th Aug 2011 01:14 in reply to "RE[4]: no 3d with nvidia 9800gt"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

I didn't say no developer had it but the ones that tested it didn't obviously didn't find any issues. Remember that driver issues tend to be very hardware specific. Your *specific* chipset (not any Nvidia one) has a issue apparently.

You assume that we didn't do any bootup testing but obviously we did and it was all done transparently as you could verify yourself by looking at Fedora test list. For your reference

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_16_Test_Results

It would taken about the same time to report a bug as it took to post your reply here. So, let me ask you again to report it and hope you do that, this time.

Edited 2011-08-26 01:18 UTC

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fast_rizwaan Member since:
2010-09-01

I didn't say no developer had it but the ones that tested it didn't obviously didn't find any issues. Remember that driver issues tend to be very hardware specific. Your *specific* chipset (not any Nvidia one) has a issue apparently.

You assume that we didn't do any bootup testing but obviously we did and it was all done transparently as you could verify yourself by looking at Fedora test list. For your reference

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_16_Test_Results

It would taken about the same time to report a bug as it took to post your reply here. So, let me ask you again to report it and hope you do that, this time.


Ok, there already exists a bug with F15 where normal-graphics mode crashes on live-cd, which is the same issue with F16

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534141
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704998
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708004

So, it's a nouveau driver bug in fedora 15. when an already existing bug in f15 is not fixed , how can F16 can boot properly? In f16 gnome-shell handles 3d crashes nicely, that's why it shows "Sorry there is some problem", unlike f15.

I just wonder why these unresolved bug is not mentioned in known-issues, then as "some nvidia gpus lack 3d support"?

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