Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Sep 2011 15:17 UTC
Windows More news on Windows 8. This time around, Gabe Aul, a director of program management in Windows, blogged about the changes Microsoft has made to Windows 8's boot process. The results are impressive - a boot time not much slower than waking from sleep on current Windows 7 and Mac OS X machines. This is, of course, a vital component of getting Windows NT ready for tablets.
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RE[3]: Comment by krreagan
by lemur2 on Mon 12th Sep 2011 23:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by krreagan"
lemur2
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2007-02-17

"Frequent reboot"? Maybe once a month if there is an OS level update every month. The last time I had to reboot Windows 7 for a non-update reason was when my antivirus's web scanner got wedged and wouldn't let me load pages. It did bluescreen maybe two months ago because of the ATI video drivers. What frequent reboots are you expecting Windows 8 to require?


I have a under-powered netbook called an Acer Aspire One 522, which has only a 1GHz 64bit dual-core CPU with Radeon HD 6250 graphics and a high-resolution 1280 x 720 pixel display.

http://liliputing.com/2011/03/acer-aspire-one-522-netbook-review.ht...

I have set up this machine to dual-boot Windows 7 (which it came with) and Kubuntu 11.04 (which is my self-installed value-enhancer). Only very occasionally do I bother to boot Windows 7, because it takes soooooo long.

Anyway, the time before last when I had booted Windows 7, the machine advised that updates were available, and recognising that updates on Windows 7 are absolutely crucial to the continued good functioning of the machine, I allowed them to proceed when I shut down the machine. It took ages to shut down, so I had assumed the machine had installed the updates. Silly me.

When I next booted the machine, the updates that were only queued did actually install. I waited, waited and waited for the machine to start, all the while it was telling me ... "Do not turn off this machine" or similar message. It took well over an hour, and no less than three re-boots, before I could begin to use the desktop.

Well over an hour to boot, and three reboots required in only two Windows login sessions ... that has GOT to be some kind of record doesn't it?

Meanwhile, on the exact same machine, the maximum time to boot Kubuntu 11.04 has been about 15 seconds.

Edited 2011-09-12 23:09 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by krreagan
by manjabes on Tue 13th Sep 2011 16:33 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by krreagan"
manjabes Member since:
2005-08-27

Meanwhile, on the exact same machine, the maximum time to boot Kubuntu 11.04 has been about 15 seconds.


Except when you happen to update your *buntu, after which your graphics driver is borked, sound driver needs to be reconfigured and Samba has gone bananas and needs to be tamed again.

Seriously, you sound like pretty precious Linux has NO kernel updates (that require a reboot and maybe recompiling a driver or two), no X updates (that require restarting X, a process equivalent to a reboot for any GUI-using user) and even if these updates happen (which they don't because it's Linux, which is by definition perfect) then they happen automagically and don't bork your KDE session or require a reboot.

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RE[5]: Comment by krreagan
by lemur2 on Tue 13th Sep 2011 23:57 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by krreagan"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"Meanwhile, on the exact same machine, the maximum time to boot Kubuntu 11.04 has been about 15 seconds.
Except when you happen to update your *buntu, after which your graphics driver is borked, sound driver needs to be reconfigured and Samba has gone bananas and needs to be tamed again. Seriously, you sound like pretty precious Linux has NO kernel updates (that require a reboot and maybe recompiling a driver or two), no X updates (that require restarting X, a process equivalent to a reboot for any GUI-using user) and even if these updates happen (which they don't because it's Linux, which is by definition perfect) then they happen automagically and don't bork your KDE session or require a reboot. "

Sigh!

I don't upgrade Linux operating systems in place ... instead I replace the entire OS when I transition from one release to the next. I don't use proprietary drivers, for graphics cards I use either the open source Radeon drivers from Xorg or the Intel drivers from Intel. The Acer Aspire One 522 works beautifully with the open source Radeon driver.

On Linux, when updates are due, one just lets the auto-updater run in the background. It is not required that you stop working.

Occasionally, even for Linux, the kernel or some core component is updated. In this case the system shows a little yellow icon in the system tray, advising that a re-boot is required. At my convenience, I save what I was doing, close down the applications I was using, and perform the requested re-boot.

As I said, this re-boot takes less than 15 seconds for Kubuntu 11.04 on my under-powered Acer Aspire One 522.

I have separated the user's home partition from the the operating system partition on this machine. When the time comes after October this year, I will probably upgrade the Kubuntu operating system (at my convenience, when the machine is not being used for anything) to Kubuntu 11.10. I will wipe Kubuntu 11.04, re-format the OS partition (but not obviously the user's home partition), and install Kubuntu 11.10 in the OS partition. The whole operation will take only about 30 minutes.

At no stage will I need to re-compile anything. I will test my system first by booting Kubuntu 11.10 from a USB stick before I commit it to the hard drive, so I will ensure that nothing will be borked.

Edited 2011-09-13 23:58 UTC

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