Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Sep 2011 00:18 UTC
Windows In the article on Windows 8, I already mentioned that in order to demonstrate the viability of Metro for something other than Facebook and Twitter, Microsoft should come up with a Metro interface for Microsoft Office - one that doesn't leave out 90% of Office's features. Well, Microsoft has hinted that they are, indeed, working on Metro Office. In addition, it turns out Microsoft isn't entirely sure to how to address the issue if legacy applications on ARM.
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tomcat
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2006-01-06

Microsoft is an easy target because they haven't been compelling in the tablet market as of yet, but they may know what their doing with Metro.


Microsoft's previous attempts at tablets tried to get people to touch the desktop -- which was fraught with peril and essentially the wrong choice because windowed/desktop UI is small, complex, and difficult to target properly. Think about all of the toolbars and menus and junk UI that's impossible to target with a fat finger. Metro changes all that. It removes the chrome and clutter, and gets down to the essence of what the user is trying to manipulate. A lot of geeks will resist this change because they believe that the simplification somehow dumbs-down the user experience to the point where geek hegemony doesn't rule supreme anymore. But that's okay, because they still have their command-lines and desktop, if they really want it. It's just that the rest of the world wants a simpler experience.

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Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06

It's just that the rest of the world wants a simpler experience.


How can you be so sure? Any computer user, including grannies, who isn't a total idiot, will know how to use Windows, from XP to 7, or OS X.
As it has already been said, if you can't use such simple interfaces, you have no business using a computer.
But what matters most, time will tell and users will vote with their wallet. My money is on Windows 8 doing worse than Vista, regarding sales.
This will be also a great opportunity for OS X, if only Apple had somebody in charge who was visionary enough to bring Macs to the masses, by making prices more affordable.

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

How can you be so sure? Any computer user, including grannies, who isn't a total idiot, will know how to use Windows, from XP to 7, or OS X.
As it has already been said, if you can't use such simple interfaces, you have no business using a computer.


Sales of laptop computers (easily the largest category of computers sold today) are declining, while sales of the iPad are increasing. I think it's reasonable to conclude that sales of iPads (and smartphones) are eating into laptop sales. The market is speaking. IDC, Gartner, and everybody else echoes these sentiments. Microsoft is responding.

But what matters most, time will tell and users will vote with their wallet.


Agree.

My money is on Windows 8 doing worse than Vista, regarding sales.


I disagree. Vista didn't really offer much value over XP. The interface was pretty much the same, and it created some glaring performance issues. Windows 8 is a different animal altogether. The interface has been completely revamped, it's a new programming model, there's a Store ecosystem developing, and thus ... this won' be your father's version of Windows. I believe that the market will respond favorably.

This will be also a great opportunity for OS X, if only Apple had somebody in charge who was visionary enough to bring Macs to the masses, by making prices more affordable.


Disagree. OSX is mired in old school desktop thinking. It's not going to build significantly more market share, other than the iPad and iPhone.

Edited 2011-09-18 23:14 UTC

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vault Member since:
2005-09-15

A lot of geeks will resist this change because they believe that the simplification somehow dumbs-down the user experience to the point where geek hegemony doesn't rule supreme anymore. But that's okay, because they still have their command-lines and desktop, if they really want it. It's just that the rest of the world wants a simpler experience.

I think even the geeks agree that Metro is a superior interface on touch-based devices. What we don't want to accept is Metro being forced on the desktop computers. If you tried it you'd know that it's next to useless on a 24" monitor, operated with mouse and keyboard.

You could say that we don't have to use Metro if we don't want to, but the fact that normal desktop is suddenly being called "legacy", and all the new APIs target Metro, win32 supposedly being phased out, THAT'S what makes us nervous. It seems like Microsoft is forcing Metro on us, no matter the device, it's size, shape or controls.

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