Linked by David Adams on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:47 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Linux Linux is struggling on the desktop because it only has a small number of "great" apps, according to the Gnome co-creator. Miguel de Icaza, co-creator of the Gnome desktop, told tech journalist Tim Anderson at the recent Windows 8 Build conference "When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10," de Icaza said, according to a post on Anderson's IT Writing blog. "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."
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Yes and no ...
by MacTO on Fri 30th Sep 2011 01:49 UTC
MacTO
Member since:
2006-09-21

The thing is, I'd have a hard time naming 10 great Windows desktop applications and I've been using Windows for about 3 years now.

The problem is that we automatically cross a lot of applications off the list because we have a narrow definition of a desktop application. Things like Word and Writer will count, but KidPix and Tux Paint would be ignored. The exclusion is ironic since the Photoshop and GIMP would count, but software for children just doesn't seem worthy.

If you want to make an honest list of the great desktop applications for Linux, go into the package manager and remind yourself about all of the great programs that are out there. And try to avoid mentally crossing things off because it's 'for a child', 'only for developers', 'geared towards science geeks', or whatever.

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RE: Yes and no ...
by demetrioussharpe on Fri 30th Sep 2011 14:54 in reply to "Yes and no ..."
demetrioussharpe Member since:
2009-01-09

The thing is, I'd have a hard time naming 10 great Windows desktop applications and I've been using Windows for about 3 years now.

The problem is that we automatically cross a lot of applications off the list because we have a narrow definition of a desktop application. Things like Word and Writer will count, but KidPix and Tux Paint would be ignored. The exclusion is ironic since the Photoshop and GIMP would count, but software for children just doesn't seem worthy.

If you want to make an honest list of the great desktop applications for Linux, go into the package manager and remind yourself about all of the great programs that are out there. And try to avoid mentally crossing things off because it's 'for a child', 'only for developers', 'geared towards science geeks', or whatever.


I think I'll follow the KISS principle here. If Lots of people are using it & an overwhelming majority of them speak very highly of it, then it's great. You should keep in mind that 'great' is highly relative & subjective, so the only way to truly quantify it is by volume of usage coupled with positive critique. It doesn't matter how good a children's app is if most children aren't using it, because that means that most parents aren't installing it.

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RE: Yes and no ... - GIMP
by jabbotts on Fri 30th Sep 2011 17:47 in reply to "Yes and no ..."
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

My little one is using GIMP. "Can I use your computer to colour?" and all I had was GIMP installed at the time so "this program might be a little complicated" but she wanted to try so up it loaded. By the second time, she was already using it better than I can. I resize and crop images; she's changing backgrounds, mucking with layers, figuring out all the colour pickers..

Given that it's GIMP, I'm more than a little stunned that the first try didn't end five minutes later with her going back to the colouring book and box of pencils.

(I should give tuxpaint a go though)

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RE: Yes and no ...
by twitterfire on Sat 1st Oct 2011 00:44 in reply to "Yes and no ..."
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

The thing is, I'd have a hard time naming 10 great Windows desktop applications and I've been using Windows for about 3 years now.


That's easy. I can probably mention at least 1000 but I will mention only ~70.

Microsoft Office, Microsoft Visual Studio, Adobe Photoshop, 3DS Max, Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere, uTorrent, KMPlayer, Adobe Dreamweaver, Cyberlink PowerDVD,ACDSee, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Audition, Everest, DVDShrink, Partition Magic, Winamp, Finale, Notepad, Google Earth, Traktor DJ, Soundforge, Nero, Picasa, Guitar Rig, Amplitube, Acronis True Image, Adobe After Effects, Autocad, CCleaner, Mathematica, Quicken, Steinberg Cubase, Visicalc, Trillian, World of Warcraft, Half Life, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Rift, Guild Wars, Grand Theft Auto, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Halo, TES Oblivion, KOTOR, Civilization, Heroes of Might and Magic, Need for Speed, Fear, Syberia, Mafia, Deus Ex, Gods of War, Rift, LOTRO, Warhammer, Planesacape Torment, Ultima Online, Unreal Tournament, Fallout, Starcraft, Diablo, The Witcher, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Knights.

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RE[2]: Yes and no ...
by filosofem on Sat 1st Oct 2011 10:57 in reply to "RE: Yes and no ..."
filosofem Member since:
2010-05-05

Funny that halfway you started to inflate the list with games. Hey, it's apps we're talking about here. The number of apps sitting on my Docky easily exceed 20 and they are all good if not great, with the sole exception of Skype -- proprietary crap that fails on me all the bloody time and can't be fixed no matter what because the source is not open.

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