Linked by David Adams on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:47 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Linux Linux is struggling on the desktop because it only has a small number of "great" apps, according to the Gnome co-creator. Miguel de Icaza, co-creator of the Gnome desktop, told tech journalist Tim Anderson at the recent Windows 8 Build conference "When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10," de Icaza said, according to a post on Anderson's IT Writing blog. "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."
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RE[3]: He's right
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Sep 2011 05:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: He's right"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

"As for the '10 good desktop apps thing', can you list 10 really good apps that DON'T run on Windows?
Depends what you mean by "really good apps". I will interpret it as meaning apps that are at least as good, if not far better, as those currently used for the same purposes on Windows. OK, challenge accepted. Plasma desktop, digikam, krita, k3b, kate, okular, dolphin, Kst, Amarok, qalculate "

WTF? Why was this voted down? I listed 10 apps that don't run on Windows. All 10 are at least as good as any other equivalent app for other platforms for the same purpose.

A perfectly polite and concise answer to the question posed.

What on earth is going on with the downvoting?

Is there some point here that some people don't want others to know about, or something?

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RE[4]: He's right
by Slambert666 on Fri 30th Sep 2011 06:09 in reply to "RE[3]: He's right"
Slambert666 Member since:
2008-10-30

WTF? Why was this voted down? I listed 10 apps that don't run on Windows. All 10 are at least as good as any other equivalent app for other platforms for the same purpose.


Perhaps you were voted down for being delusional?

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RE[5]: He's right
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Sep 2011 06:13 in reply to "RE[4]: He's right"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"WTF? Why was this voted down? I listed 10 apps that don't run on Windows. All 10 are at least as good as any other equivalent app for other platforms for the same purpose.
Perhaps you were voted down for being delusional? "

That is not on the list of reasons for downvoting a post. Neither does it describe the post itself.

PS: In order to make a claim such as "delusional", you would first have to establish even a teeny tiny point. This you have utterly failed to do, I notice.

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RE[5]: He's right
by No it isnt on Fri 30th Sep 2011 09:24 in reply to "RE[4]: He's right"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

My bet is that none of the downvoters have actually tested those apps.

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RE[4]: He's right
by ephracis on Fri 30th Sep 2011 06:53 in reply to "RE[3]: He's right"
ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

All 10 are at least as good as any other equivalent app for other platforms for the same purpose.

No they are not, not in my opinion. You see, this "good" word is highly subjective. I for one don't want my screen blasted with the vomit that is Amarok or Dolphin.

But again, that's my highly personal opinion. You sir make it sound like your opinion is the truth. Maybe that pissed people off?

Just a guess, I didn't vote...

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RE[5]: He's right
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Sep 2011 07:17 in reply to "RE[4]: He's right"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

" All 10 are at least as good as any other equivalent app for other platforms for the same purpose.
No they are not, not in my opinion. You see, this "good" word is highly subjective. I for one don't want my screen blasted with the vomit that is Amarok or Dolphin. But again, that's my highly personal opinion. You sir make it sound like your opinion is the truth. Maybe that pissed people off? Just a guess, I didn't vote... "

Yours it is just as much an opinion. For example, I can set Dolphin to pretty much mimic exactly the way that Windows explorer looks and feels, and get it to do everything that Windows explorer does. You, however, can't get Windows explorer to have a split screen, or separate tabs, or to perform a batch re-name on a group of files, or to convert-as-it-copies from an audio CD to a set of .mp3 files on disk elsewhere (let alone a set of .ogg files on disk).

You might not like Amorak, and indeed I prefer Clementine myself but Clementine is not Linux-only. The point is, despite your opinion, I notice that you don't actually come up with a better Windows-only application that can match Amorak feature-for-feature (for example, Amorak's support of FLAC and Ogg Vorbis audio files, or its support of iPod personal media players, its support for lyrics and album covers and file metadata, all available in the one app).

After all, it is the Windows fanbois who are trying to claim that there are no good Linux desktop applications. All I have to do is demonstrate some of the desktop app features that equivalent Windows apps can't match, and my point stands. It doesn't depend on your like or dislike of Linux artwork.

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RE[4]: He's right
by oinet on Fri 30th Sep 2011 07:23 in reply to "RE[3]: He's right"
oinet Member since:
2010-03-23

I personally despise anonymous voting/modding.

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RE[5]: He's right - reasons at least
by jabbotts on Fri 30th Sep 2011 17:12 in reply to "RE[4]: He's right"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I don't need to know who votted up or down but I'd sure like to find out where I can see the breakdown of chosen reason for votting a comment up or down. I've seen more than a few o few of my own votted down for no reason aperent to rational thinking humans.

In most cases, I don't care that the comment was even voted up or down, just if they down vote was because I was really that far off base or conflicted with someone's chosen world view.

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RE[4]: He's right
by cyrilleberger on Fri 30th Sep 2011 09:21 in reply to "RE[3]: He's right"
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

Except that most of them run on windows... There is no exclusively good linux-only applications, because most of them are written with portable toolkits. And if they are good, eventually someone will compile them on windows.

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RE[5]: He's right
by lemur2 on Fri 30th Sep 2011 10:05 in reply to "RE[4]: He's right"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Except that most of them run on windows... There is no exclusively good linux-only applications, because most of them are written with portable toolkits. And if they are good, eventually someone will compile them on windows.


Except for the ones I listed, and many others besides, which don't run on Windows.

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