Linked by David Adams on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:47 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Linux Linux is struggling on the desktop because it only has a small number of "great" apps, according to the Gnome co-creator. Miguel de Icaza, co-creator of the Gnome desktop, told tech journalist Tim Anderson at the recent Windows 8 Build conference "When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10," de Icaza said, according to a post on Anderson's IT Writing blog. "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."
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RE[2]: He's right
by karunko on Fri 30th Sep 2011 13:28 UTC in reply to "RE: He's right"
karunko
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Because obviously, having half a dozen desktop environments and 900 distros to choose from really IS a good thing ;)

What's wrong with choices? Do you really want "one OS to rule them all"? That maybe fine for you and/or most people but, surprise, some other people like freedom (of choice) and are prepared to take the time to learn their way around and, sometimes, even put up with a botched upgrade and a reinstall -- as if such things never happen with a mainstream OS! But don't get me wrong: when I talk about choices I'm including Windows and OS X too.

As for the '10 good desktop apps thing', can you list 10 really good apps that DON'T run on Windows?

De Icaza was talking mostly about Windows 8 and Metro applications and didn't say "Linux only applications", so flipping the question on its head makes little sense to me. Unless, that is, you're interested in a pissing contest. ;-)

That said, I think there's plenty of "great" apps in Linux (and *BSD land) and any modern distribution makes for a fairly usable environment -- at least for the most common activities. It could be said that some of them are not as polished or as easy to use but, again, I value freedom most of all and I like the idea of an OS that's not controlled by a single entity. I don't know, maybe I'm a bit of an anarchist.


RT.

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RE[3]: He's right
by WorknMan on Fri 30th Sep 2011 19:59 in reply to "RE[2]: He's right"
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2005-11-13

That said, I think there's plenty of "great" apps in Linux (and *BSD land) and any modern distribution makes for a fairly usable environment -- at least for the most common activities. It could be said that some of them are not as polished or as easy to use but, again, I value freedom most of all and I like the idea of an OS that's not controlled by a single entity. I don't know, maybe I'm a bit of an anarchist.


Basically what you're saying is that you're willing to put up with a lot of bullshit in exchange for freedom (or at least your version of it), and that's fine... I can't argue with you there.

But what many of us (both end users and developers) have been saying for years is that desktop Linux is a fragmented mess, and is a big reason why we want nothing to do with it.

Of course, some folks like it that way, and like I said before... that's fine. But in its current state, it's NEVER going to pick up any significant marketshare. So if you want to have stuff splintered in a hundred different directions, you're just going to have to live with the marketshare you have, and no amount of whining about choice and 'Steve Balmer/Jobs is a seal-clubbing bastard' is going to change it.

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