Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Oct 2011 20:36 UTC, submitted by zizban
BeOS & Derivatives Oh gosh, finally news that's got nothing to do with patents or smartphones or the comparing of male sexual organs. Haiku news! Michael Lotz has added preliminary support for WPA to Haiku, taking the first steps towards making the Haiku wireless stack a lot more useful.
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RE[2]: Comment by peteo
by peteo on Wed 5th Oct 2011 22:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by peteo"
peteo
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2011-10-05

Its cheaper than Windows, nicer than Mac OS, and more useful (on the desktop) than Linux....



Well, that's the problem. Windows ships with every PC (so essensially "free"), Mac OS X is certainly nicer than Haiku and - let's face it - Haiku is NOT currently more useful than Linux on the desktop.

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RE[3]: Comment by peteo
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 6th Oct 2011 03:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by peteo"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I noticed the word "essentially" and the quotes around "free," but I wouldn't call a hidden cost "essentially 'free.'"

Edited 2011-10-06 03:30 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by peteo
by Morgan on Thu 6th Oct 2011 08:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by peteo"
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2005-06-29

Windows ships with every PC (so essensially "free")


It doesn't ship with every PC, even some major manufacturers like Dell and HP offer Linux preinstalled or even a bare hard drive, to save the cost of the license. And while the cost of the version of Windows bundled with the PC is absorbed in the sale price, the next major upgrade will be out of pocket.

Mac OS X is certainly nicer than Haiku


Well that's purely subjective. I absolutely love the OS X interface and all the cool little features under the hood. I feel exactly the same way about Haiku, and it's free. Granted OS X is pretty cheap these days, but it's also (officially) limited to Apple hardware so that's a negative.

and - let's face it - Haiku is NOT currently more useful than Linux on the desktop.


Again, that is subjective. While I've been enjoying what I've seen of Gnome 3.0 (now 3.2) as I get used to it on my netbook, I'm eagerly anticipating getting Haiku to properly boot on it. Right now I'm settling for a VM in full screen and it's working very well. But running it native will, for me, be a much more pleasant and useful experience than Linux has been, no matter the distro or DE.

I'm curious to know if you have had only limited experience with Haiku and the BeOS way of computing, or if you're an old hat going back to the R4.5 days like me. It really clicked with me back then, and to this day is still closer to my ideal interface and workflow than any other OS by far. I have my own ideas of how an interface should present itself to the user, and Haiku espouses a lot of those already.

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RE[4]: Comment by peteo
by No it isnt on Thu 6th Oct 2011 09:24 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by peteo"
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2005-11-14

Again, that is subjective. While I've been enjoying what I've seen of Gnome 3.0 (now 3.2) as I get used to it on my netbook, I'm eagerly anticipating getting Haiku to properly boot on it.


No, that's not subjective. Not properly booting, and then being without most of Linux's productivity tools while bringing almost nothing of its own, all make Haiku objectively less usable on the desktop than Linux.

Warm fuzzies isn't the most important aspect of usability. If it were, the Tamagotchi would be considered more usable than a Palm. In fact, warm fuzzies don't count at all, and although Haiku is more usable than a Tamagotchi, it's still mainly a toy OS.

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RE[4]: Comment by peteo
by peteo on Thu 6th Oct 2011 10:34 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by peteo"
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2011-10-05

"It doesn't ship with every PC, even some major manufacturers like Dell and HP offer Linux preinstalled or even a bare hard driver."

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

"Mac OS X is certainly nicer than Haiku"
"Well that's purely subjective."

So?

"I'm curious to know if you have had only limited experience with Haiku and the BeOS way of computing, or if you're an old hat going back to the R4.5 days like me."


If had the intelligence to read my post, you would have read the fact I was a professional R5 user for years, and I've used Haiku more thoroughly than some of the developers.

Haiku is too little, too late.

Now move on.

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