Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 7th Oct 2011 20:48 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless I don't think I've ever seen this before, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Samsung anf Google were supposed to unveil the Samsung Nexus Prime with Android Ice Cream Sandwich next week, but in a surprise announcement, the companies said that the press event is cancelled - out of respect for Steve Jobs. In the meantime, leaked specifications reveal that the Nexus Prime could be a real doozy.
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RE[2]: press release interpreted
by atsureki on Sun 9th Oct 2011 00:35 UTC in reply to "RE: press release interpreted"
atsureki
Member since:
2006-03-12

About that collective "meh": http://allthingsd.com/20111007/att-says-seen-200000-pre-orders-for-...

Most successful iPhone launch ever.

Watching Apple's event, the main difference between Jobs and Cook as presenter is that Jobs showed his enthusiasm. He dropped his trademark "awesome" and "insanely great" while he talked about a product. The so-called "reality distortion field", it turns out, was Steve Jobs telling clueless tech journalists how impressed they should be, because Lord knows they can't figure it out on their own.

Double the performance with better battery life, "4G" throughput without LTE hardware, massively upgraded photocell with optics to do it justice, and a "beta" voice assistant that blows anything short of IBM's Watson out of the water... but they didn't bump the number, and the average tech journalist is an idiot, so "meh."

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

It must have been hard on those presenters at the iPhone event knowing that Steve Jobs was literally at death's door, they did very well under the circumstances. Did you notice the 'reserved' empty chair where Jobs would have normally sat and the way the camera lingered over it a couple times?

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

but they didn't bump the number, and the average tech journalist is an idiot, so "meh."


Yes, tech journalists are generally idiots. This makes sense, since they work for large companies, and need to appease not only their parent company, but also their advertisers, and Apple itself, of course (to ensure an invitation to the next event).

All those large tech sites? Engadget? Ars Technica?

When it comes to Apple reviews, they are - by definition - not to be trusted. Sites like that MUST be nice and kind about Apple, because else Apple cuts them off. They are the IGN and GameSpot of the tech world [when it comes to reviews - otherwise they're relatively decent, esp. Ars].

If you want real reviews, go to the likes of AnandTech and Tom's Hardware. Those are the real tech journalists. Major exception to the rule is Siracusa, of course. He's a legend.

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As for myself - my response to the iPhone 4S is a big resounding meh exactly because I'm a nerd. I never said it wouldn't sell or wouldn't be a success - because at this point, Apple could slap a logo on a turd, call it the iPhone X, and sell 34 million of them by quarter's end.

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atsureki Member since:
2006-03-12

When it comes to Apple reviews, they are - by definition - not to be trusted. Sites like that MUST be nice and kind about Apple, because else Apple cuts them off. They are the IGN and GameSpot of the tech world [when it comes to reviews - otherwise they're relatively decent, esp. Ars].


And we see evidence of this where?

If you want real reviews, go to the likes of AnandTech and Tom's Hardware. Those are the real tech journalists. Major exception to the rule is Siracusa, of course. He's a legend.


Benchmark sites. Appealingly objective in their informational content, and informative provided your question is specific enough.

As for myself - my response to the iPhone 4S is a big resounding meh exactly because I'm a nerd. I never said it wouldn't sell or wouldn't be a success - because at this point, Apple could slap a logo on a turd, call it the iPhone X, and sell 34 million of them by quarter's end.


This is exactly what I'm talking about. You recuse yourself from human taste and understanding by calling yourself a nerd, tacitly claiming that your expectations are special without giving any hint as to what they might actually have been, and go on to insult the general public with a flippant remark that they're so uninformed and tasteless they'd buy Apple-branded feces, ignoring the fact that Apple's products have the highest customer satisfaction ratings while selling in the tens of millions, something no amount of loyalty or marketing could achieve. Whom could a journalist who believes such thinking is insightful ever hope to inform?

The iPhone is disappointing because it is, but people will buy anything because they will, and that's journalism. Who's the one trying to sell shit?

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Tony Swash Member since:
2009-08-22

Do you have any evidence to support the notion that if attendees at Apple event write a critical review of a product that they will be disinvited to the next event? Any evidence at all?

What strikes me about tech reviewers and Apple products is how often they underestimate the potential of Apple products by a quite staggering degree. The way the iPad was greeted is a very good example of that. The way the iPhone 4s was greeted is another example in the same league I think. Leaving aside the fact that by this time next month the iPhone 4s will be the world's top selling handset the way that the tech press, by and large, has utterly failed to understand the significance or potential of Siri is astonishing. What was demoed seems to be a functional AI system, in a phone, that actually works in the real world and does useful stuff. And it's not even at version 1 yet. The potential of this is enormous.

You say 'because at this point, Apple could slap a logo on a turd' but the point it's not that Apple could sell a turd the point is that the buying public knows from long experience that Apple won't sell them a turd. What was the last Apple product of any significance that could be described as turd? Premium brands are partially made by advertising and market positioning but only partially. If a premium brand is actually crap the brand reputation will sooner or later (usually sooner) collapse. And the fact is what Apple sells is a premium brand product experience at not premium prices. The buying public knows this but tech commentators often miss the point because they obsess about specs and stuff that often doesn't matter that much and the stuff that does matter a lot is often invisible to them. Hence Apple's baffling, from their point of view, success.

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kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

Yes, tech journalists are generally idiots.


Not to like rub it in Thom but you gleefully put down other journalists and trump your platform of choice using totally random metrics and standards and you also tend to flip flop as and when it suits you.

I am not sure that really makes you a better tech journalist.

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

I'm not denying it will be the next #1 selling phone on the market, it just doesn't bring anything interesting to the table. The last one at least had an exceptional screen and promised a great camera (which it failed to deliver on, and will fail to deliver on yet again), this one has nothing. Or a "voice assistant that blows anything short of IBM's Watson out of the water" if you will (RDF much?). So meh. It's just an upgrade on last year's fashion accessory.

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