Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Oct 2011 18:27 UTC
Google So, somewhere in the middle of the night (at least for me) Samsung and Google held a joint event, in which they announced both the new Nexus phone, the Galaxy Nexus, and Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich. While the Galaxy Nexus is a pretty impressive phone, what we got to see from Ice Cream Sandwich surely didn't drop too many jaws.
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RE: random thoughts
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 19th Oct 2011 20:17 UTC in reply to "random thoughts "
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Apple did introduce this font. It's called Helvetica.


Apple created Helvetica? Lolwut?

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RE[2]: random thoughts
by thavith_osn on Wed 19th Oct 2011 21:54 in reply to "RE: random thoughts "
thavith_osn Member since:
2005-07-11

Is it rude to laugh at someone for their ignorance? Appears more than not seem to think so :-(

You know everyone else knows Helvetica wasn't created by Apple. He may have been trying to say that Helvetica was very very popular on Macs, more so than say, Windows where Arial was the poor substitute.

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RE[3]: random thoughts
by kristoph on Wed 19th Oct 2011 22:34 in reply to "RE[2]: random thoughts "
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

It's ok, I am used to Thom. It's part of his charm. ;-)

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RE[3]: random thoughts
by Torbjorn Vik Lunde on Thu 20th Oct 2011 06:01 in reply to "RE[2]: random thoughts "
Torbjorn Vik Lunde Member since:
2009-09-04

Helvetica was popular before the Mac even existed.

Also: I see no problem with other OSs than iOS using Helvetica. It’s everywhere in print, I see no problem (aside from boredom maybe) with it being everywhere in digital as well.

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RE[3]: random thoughts
by Neolander on Thu 20th Oct 2011 19:17 in reply to "RE[2]: random thoughts "
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

When I see people arguing about fonts and typography as if the exact shape of a character was the single most important thing in this word, I sometimes think that alien intelligence is not so far away from me as I've always thought.

I mean, humans only recognize word shape anyway when reading large amounts of text, so I don't understand why fonts matter so much beyond some obvious concerns like character size, spacing of characters and paragraphs, or use of sans serif fonts on computer screens.

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RE[2]: random thoughts
by galvanash on Wed 19th Oct 2011 22:28 in reply to "RE: random thoughts "
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

To be fair... I think his point was that the new font Apple introduced (not created, but started using), Helvetica Neue, is nothing more than some minor tuning to the original Helvetica font (rounded corners are a bit more round, some minor width adjustments, etc.). Likewise, Roboto is nothing more than some different minor adjustments (the curve of e and g are extended a bit etc.)

Just saying there is certainly nothing special about Roboto - it IS Helvetica, or close enough that a non-expert would not notice much difference. So it Helvetica Neue for that matter.

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RE[3]: random thoughts
by Torbjorn Vik Lunde on Thu 20th Oct 2011 06:09 in reply to "RE[2]: random thoughts "
Torbjorn Vik Lunde Member since:
2009-09-04

Non-experts probably won’t tell the difference between Georgia and Times New Roman. Does that mean that Georgia is just a tweak of Times?

Are design differences in products that users cannot consciously tell apart merely tweaks? If that is true, why bother with details in a product at all?

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RE[3]: random thoughts
by rhy7s on Thu 20th Oct 2011 23:02 in reply to "RE[2]: random thoughts "
rhy7s Member since:
2008-08-04

it IS Helvetica

I don't understand why Helvetica is treated as the big bang or primogenitor of sans serif fonts, it's not like it doesn't have precursors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grotesque_%28typeface%29

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RE[2]: random thoughts
by kristoph on Wed 19th Oct 2011 22:29 in reply to "RE: random thoughts "
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

No, of course not, I am just saying they introduced it - way back - in their OS :-)

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RE[3]: random thoughts
by dragossh on Thu 20th Oct 2011 10:46 in reply to "RE[2]: random thoughts "
dragossh Member since:
2008-12-16

So now nobody else is allowed to introduce something similar? This pissing contest is childish.

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