Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 22:24 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Remember back when Nokia jumped to Windows Phone 7, abandoning all other platforms and future directions? Remember Elop's infamous 'burning platform' memo was coveniently 'leaked' to the web? Remember how Elop claimed Windows Phone 7 was the only way forward, since nothing else inside the company would be ready for prime time soon enough? Remember how I thought this was a very good and sane decision? Well, the first reviews of what will be the only MeeGo handset from Nokia (the N9) are in, and well... To whoever decided to go WP7 and ditch MeeGo: I don't like you. To myself: I'm an idiot for arguing this was a good idea.
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RE: confused
by kragil on Sun 23rd Oct 2011 12:12 UTC in reply to "confused"
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

Maybe because it is a beautiful device that runs a very elegant and well thought out open operating system?

Plus:
- No bloated VM like in Windows Mobile Phone 7 Series or Android
- solid fast true multitasking, not the IOS bolted on second thought recently used apps + a little extra solution or Androids pre-4.0 weird solution
- incredible Qt framework, that does nearly everything from low level OpenGL to declarative Qt Quick
- only device that includes the most popular services like Gtalk, Skype, Mail, Picasa, Flicker, Twitter and Facebook etc out of the box
- most open development in the industry
- best contact management (I don't agree that Windows Mobile 7 is better, because it only works with unpopular MS stuff and popular Facebook AFAIK)

Comparable to Meego is only WebOS, but that always had flimsy crappy hardware and stupid owners (of course Nokia is also not Einstein tbh)

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RE[2]: confused
by poster on Sun 23rd Oct 2011 16:24 in reply to "RE: confused"
poster Member since:
2011-10-23

>because it only works with unpopular MS stuff

You mean really unpopular MS stuff like Hotmail which has 100 M more active users than gmail? Or did you mean gmail itself whose contact also sync perfectly in wp7? I'm guessing that you don't agree wp7 that contact management is great mainly because you don't know what your talking about.

>its own unique user interface paradigm

Which is what? I think Meego looks great and is really interesting from a dev standpoint but little about the paradigm is unique. This statement makes no sense.

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RE[2]: confused
by Nelson on Mon 24th Oct 2011 02:37 in reply to "RE: confused"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


Plus:
- No bloated VM like in Windows Mobile Phone 7 Series or Android


? WP7 apps load faster than the apps I've seen on the N9. So WP7 can read off of a disk, JIT, and execute faster than the N9 can read off of a disk and execute?

I don't know, but I'm really not seeing this "bloated VM" you're talking about. Especially when XNA games run at maximum FPS in a majority of titles I download.


- solid fast true multitasking, not the IOS bolted on second thought recently used apps + a little extra solution or Androids pre-4.0 weird solution


What's the upside to having an entire process taking up clock cycles when its not in the foreground? I quite like the specialized multitasking in Windows Phone and iPhone. Its a lot saner than what the other platforms offer.


- incredible Qt framework, that does nearly everything from low level OpenGL to declarative Qt Quick


Nice? Neat? Sure. Incredible? Come on. They tack so much to shoehorn C++ into a useable language, coupled with a second rate declarative markup which is controlled by, yes, Javascript.

Seriously? We're going to go from Visual Studio to Qt Creator? Not in this lifetime.


- most open development in the industry


Uh, what? Qt just recently was granted open governance status. You realized that a lot of the N9, well, almost all of it, was developed behind closed doors, right? Just because it says MeeGo, doesn't mean it had much of anything to do with whatever leftovers the open source crowd was given.


- best contact management (I don't agree that Windows Mobile 7 is better, because it only works with unpopular MS stuff and popular Facebook AFAIK)


Facebook, Windows Live (which itself aggregates like 20 social networks), Twitter, LinkedIn, Gmail, Yahoo, ..? That's pretty much everything..


Comparable to Meego is only WebOS, but that always had flimsy crappy hardware and stupid owners (of course Nokia is also not Einstein tbh)


No, they're quite comparable. Both are complete and utter failures.

The OS is not as important as the developer ecosystem you build around it. WP7's developer armies are absolutely massive. No other OS platform is gaining apps as fast as WP7. None.

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