Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 22:24 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Remember back when Nokia jumped to Windows Phone 7, abandoning all other platforms and future directions? Remember Elop's infamous 'burning platform' memo was coveniently 'leaked' to the web? Remember how Elop claimed Windows Phone 7 was the only way forward, since nothing else inside the company would be ready for prime time soon enough? Remember how I thought this was a very good and sane decision? Well, the first reviews of what will be the only MeeGo handset from Nokia (the N9) are in, and well... To whoever decided to go WP7 and ditch MeeGo: I don't like you. To myself: I'm an idiot for arguing this was a good idea.
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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Sun 23rd Oct 2011 20:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl
Member since:
2010-06-08

X11 is used until Wayland will mature enough. No one forced Android into using incompatible approach. But they did, not benefiting anyone except themselves, and giving an excuse to hardware manufactures not to produce drivers for anything except Android.

Problem is not only lightweight stack, but something that can share the effort and benefit many parties. Android doesn't do it. If hypothetically, Android could use Wayland and pour resources into it - situation could be very different. It could be giving back to the community, and not being selfish.

Edited 2011-10-23 20:57 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by orsg on Sun 23rd Oct 2011 21:17 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
orsg Member since:
2011-02-09

The problem is a lightweight stack, and during the time Android was created, Wayland didn't even exist as a prototype or something different. Plus: What's the difference in using X11 permanently or temporarily? Phones you buy now waste resources on this aspect, that's the point. Buyers today do not care if phones in 3 years will draw less power. Meego won't exist in 3 years anymore anyway...

Android is a complete Stack, that's its purpose to be coherent and integrated, but if you wish, you can of course take the source code and extract the display subsystem :-)

Edited 2011-10-23 21:19 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Sun 23rd Oct 2011 21:24 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Well, if you go to the beginning, design and intentions matter. Wayland was designed as X11 replacement, but as generic composting graphical stack, taking in account sharing effort of Linux drivers developers, Linux distros and etc. Android's graphical stack was designed for Android only, without any consideration of sharing any efforts, benefiting anyone except Android and so on. And it shows. When Wayland emerged not so much later, Android could switch efforts to it, if they'd really wanted to. But, they already had their own thing, and were content with it. Android can be blamed for selfishness, not for not being too inefficient.

Edited 2011-10-23 21:26 UTC

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