Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 17th Nov 2011 23:20 UTC
Legal The saga surrounding SOPA will be dominating the headlines for a while yet, and today is no different. First of all, and most importantly, the European Parliament has adopted a resolution against SOPA, while also calling for net neutrality to become part of EU law. Second, and this is also interesting, we now have a list of software companies which are against freedom of speech on the web. Unsurprisingly, Apple and Microsoft are on this list. Update: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has spoken out against SOPA. Update II: Tumbler's anti-SOPA message on their website generated almost 90000 (!) phone calls to representatives. Amazing.
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RE[3]: us govt noob
by smitty on Fri 18th Nov 2011 04:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: us govt noob"
smitty
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2005-10-13

So there's no equivalent of a no confidence vote or double dissolution?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_dissolution

Granted these are political based solutions. (The people just can't demand an election)

What do you do if you have a government that says "We will do everything in our power to screw this country over!!!"

Is the only option rebellion?

No, there's nothing like that in the US system. If the Congress is deadlocked, then just nothing ever happens until the deadlock is broken in some way. Typically by making backroom deals, or by just moving on to another topic that can be agreed on.

You can have individuals forced out, or recalled, but that only happens under extreme circumstances, and a single vote here and there would rarely make any kind of difference.

The US system is based around checks and balances - if Congress does something stupid, the president will hopefully veto it. If not, then it goes to the courts to get invalidated. And if that doesn't work, the only option is to wait for the next elections. House of Reps is every 2 years. President 4 years. Senate 6 years.

The problem is that everyone in the US likes their own representative in Congress while hating everyone elses. They all blame others for adding pork, getting political favors for their districts, etc. Yet if their own representative doesn't do the same thing they get voted out in favor of someone who will.

Edited 2011-11-18 04:39 UTC

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RE[4]: us govt noob
by Tuishimi on Fri 18th Nov 2011 06:17 in reply to "RE[3]: us govt noob"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah, but the reason they love their own representatives/senators is because they wheel and deal behind the scenes to get benefits for their own states. The longer a congressman is in office, the more he/she can accomplish with seniority.

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RE[5]: us govt noob
by JAlexoid on Fri 18th Nov 2011 10:15 in reply to "RE[4]: us govt noob"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

So what you're saying is that Amercians* are really small minded when it comes to politics. NIMBY syndrome at it's best!
Frankly, that system makes a lot of sense for 18th century, not much for anything post universal suffrage.

* - nothing anti-American in particular most people are small-minded.

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