Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 6th Dec 2011 23:05 UTC
Legal I guess this is something many Americans hope would happen in the United States: the Dutch competition watchdog has raided offices of T-Mobile, Vodafone and KPN, the three Dutch carriers. The three carriers are accused of illegal price fixing, something they've already been found guilty of about ten years ago.
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RE: We don't like the price
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 7th Dec 2011 20:53 UTC in reply to "We don't like the price"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

The other obvious answer would be: why not try capitalism?


Because that leads to... Price fixing?

Seriously dude, aren't you out of your college phase by now? This is getting silly.

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RE[2]: We don't like the price
by bhtooefr on Wed 7th Dec 2011 22:32 in reply to "RE: We don't like the price"
bhtooefr Member since:
2009-02-19

I suspect that he's trying to call for not having any restrictions on spectrum.

Which doesn't work, because that means whoever can afford the biggest transmitter wins, and barriers to entry are even higher.

And, infrastructure itself is expensive to start out with.

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RE[3]: We don't like the price
by zima on Wed 7th Dec 2011 22:52 in reply to "RE[2]: We don't like the price"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

that means whoever can afford the biggest transmitter wins, and barriers to entry are even higher

That probably wouldn't work even that "well" - when there are no regulatory obstacles, it's much easier to jam than to orderly & efficienty transmit, receive, etc., I believe? (essentially making the "self-regulatory" mechanisms a one giant web of extortions, at best)

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Berend de Boer Member since:
2005-10-19

"The other obvious answer would be: why not try capitalism?


Because that leads to... Price fixing?
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The only entity big enough to fix prices is the government.

But you haven't answered my question: why are there only three carriers? I think a small island as Cyprus? A country like Israel has almost ten. Kenya has 4. South Africa 7.

As I said, I'll bet you find that competition is heavily restricted.

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RE[3]: We don't like the price
by jal_ on Thu 8th Dec 2011 10:24 in reply to "RE[2]: We don't like the price"
jal_ Member since:
2006-11-02

I think a small island as Cyprus?


Cyprus has 2 carriers, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_Eu....

A country like Israel has almost ten


If four is almost ten you're right. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_th...

Kenya has 4. South Africa 7.


Kenya is 14 times the size of the Netherlands, SA 29. Your point being?

Edited 2011-12-08 10:25 UTC

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