Linked by snydeq on Sun 11th Dec 2011 01:35 UTC
General Development Fatal Exception's Neil McAllister writes in favor of new programming languages given the difficulty of upgrading existing, popular languages. 'Whenever a new programming language is announced, a certain segment of the developer population always rolls its eyes and groans that we have quite enough to choose from already,' McAllister writes. 'But once a language reaches a certain tipping point of popularity, overhauling it to include support for new features, paradigms, and patterns is easier said than done.' PHP 6, Perl 6, Python 3, ECMAScript 4 -- 'the lesson from all of these examples is clear: Programming languages move slowly, and the more popular a language is, the slower it moves. It is far, far easier to create a new language from whole cloth than it is to convince the existing user base of a popular language to accept radical changes.'
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RE: Do I agree or not?
by WorknMan on Sun 11th Dec 2011 03:55 UTC in reply to "Do I agree or not?"
WorknMan
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2005-11-13

I find myself agreeing with all this author's supporting evidence, and yet I'm leaning away from his conclusion.


Yeah, me too. He does a good job outlining the problem, but I can't agree with the solution he proposes. I don't know if I have a solution myself, except to say that for me personally, the biggest pain in the ass part about learning a new language is learning the APIs/framework behind it. For example, C# is not a hard language to learn, but the .NET framework is a monster.

Thus, I think we should work towards standardizing the APIs/frameworks, then there could be 3,000 different programming languages, and you could hop from one to the other with relative ease.

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RE[2]: Do I agree or not?
by JAlexoid on Sun 11th Dec 2011 04:25 in reply to "RE: Do I agree or not?"
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2009-05-19

The ironic part is that without the standard libraries modern languages are useless. Any language is pretty much of the same effectiveness, when all standard libraries are removed from comparison.

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RE[3]: Do I agree or not?
by snowbender on Sun 11th Dec 2011 09:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Do I agree or not?"
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2006-05-04

The ironic part is that without the standard libraries modern languages are useless.

Don't completely agree, but standard libraries are definitely very important these days.

Any language is pretty much of the same effectiveness, when all standard libraries are removed from comparison.


I definitely don't agree with this. Any object-oriented language is pretty much of the same effectiveness, that I can live with. But, still, support for for example closures makes a big difference in effectiveness for particular problems. Functional or declarative languages are also more effective solutions for particular problems.

Even if you don't consider standard libraries, there are very good reasons for chosing different languages for different types of problems.

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