Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Dec 2011 11:27 UTC
Legal I'm guessing Apple is getting desperate, since its software patent lawsuits aren't doing particularly well. Moving on from software and design patents, the company is now suing Samsung over... Patents for mobile phone and tablet cases (more at The Verge). I think Apple has more offensive lawsuits than products now, so technically, "patent maker" is more accurate than "gadget maker" or "device maker". Fun times.
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RE[3]: two sides of the coin
by kristoph on Tue 20th Dec 2011 20:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: two sides of the coin"
kristoph
Member since:
2006-01-01

Samsung has filed a number of offensive patents suits against Apple.

(Look up the last big debate we had about this where you started the article saying that Samsung was 'going on the offensive' against Apple.)

Generally I think Apple's suits are both lame and unnecessary. The iPad design suits are especially lame because, really, the physical design of the iPad is hardly so unique as to be patentable.

These suits on the cases have much more merit. If you look at the cases their basically a blatant ripoff. No rational person can argue that.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Samsung has filed a number of offensive patents suits against Apple.


Like which?

Apple started this lowlife software patent war. Samsung, HTC, etc. are defending themselves. You know this, yet as the Apple fanboy that you are, your brain simply can't process that your favourite pet company is engaging in patent troll behaviour. As such, your brain is in a state of cognitive dissonance. What you are doing now, with trying laughably to make a villain out of a company trying to defend itself, is your brain trying to cope with integrating the new information (Apple is a patent troll) into your existing beliefs (Apple is all that is good in the world).

This is all so incredibly entertaining.

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RE[5]: two sides of the coin
by kristoph on Tue 20th Dec 2011 22:53 in reply to "RE[4]: two sides of the coin"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

Apple started this lowlife software patent war. Samsung, HTC, etc. are defending themselves. You know this, yet as the Apple fanboy that you are, your brain simply can't process that your favourite pet company is engaging in patent troll behaviour.


Thom, 'Samsung is going on the offensive' are YOUR WORDS, YOU WROTE THEM months ago.

Your now arguing that what you meant by that was that they were going on an offensive defensive.

I know your not a journalist but surely even you must see how Orwellian that sounds.

What you are doing now, with trying laughably to make a villain out of a company trying to defend itself, is your brain trying to cope with integrating the new information (Apple is a patent troll) into your existing beliefs (Apple is all that is good in the world).


First, trying to insult people while making your point is not persuasive, it just makes you sound like a dick.

Second, it's the fiduciary duty of a company to make money for it's shareholders. The law facilitates the use of patents in this way. I think it's fine for either Apple or Samsung to use patents to make money. I don't hold that against any company.

I do think in many cases the patents are lame and laws need to be changed to correct them but I don't hold companies responsible for exploiting those laws (especially since I hold stock in many of these companies). On that vein I think Apple's design patent on the iPad is totally lame but they got the patent, courts have supported the patent (or not, depending on the court) and so it goes.

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RE[4]: two sides of the coin
by JAlexoid on Tue 20th Dec 2011 20:52 in reply to "RE[3]: two sides of the coin"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Samsung has filed a number of offensive patents suits against Apple.

(Look up the last big debate we had about this where you started the article saying that Samsung was 'going on the offensive' against Apple.)


Yep, by that standard Russians were the aggressors in WW2, because they were "going on the offensive" for the whole second part of WW2.

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demosthenese Member since:
2011-02-01

Bad analogy in that Russia invaded Poland at the start of WWII

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