Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 24th Dec 2011 13:00 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Earlier today, Samsung revealed that it won't update the Galaxy S, its most successful smartphone to date, to the latest version of Android. You might shrug and dismiss that as just more evidence of Android's inherent fragmentation or the need for buyers to beware, but I take grave issue with it. This is a decision based not on technical constraints, as Samsung would have you believe, but on hubris." This. A gazillion million thousand times this. Also: "It's simple: make a large high-end device, a smaller value device, and a QWERTY device. Maybe one or two other specialty form factors, tops. That's it. Update them once a year, and keep the names the same." It would make updating a hell of a lot easier. We don't need the Samsung Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch Sensation.
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silly advice
by unclefester on Sat 24th Dec 2011 23:07 UTC
unclefester
Member since:
2007-01-13

Apple is almost certainly the only large company in the world that succeeds by limiting choice. This method only works because Apple has all the characteristics of a religious cult. Cults work by keeping the message simple and consistent and stifling dissent.

Virtually every other a major successful brand, apart from Apple, achieves success by offering as much choice as possible. Ralph Lauren makes dozens of different polo shirts colours and styles. BMW, Lexus and Mercedes offer a huge number of possible combinations of body, engine suspension, paint colour, interior trim etc.

Android is successful mainly because it offers so much choice. Most people want choice and the ability to customise. That is why you can buy thousands of different phone cases.

Cults nearly always die out shortly after their guru dies. Apple will not be an exception.

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RE: silly advice
by MOS6510 on Sun 25th Dec 2011 00:04 in reply to "silly advice"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

You do sound a bit insane.

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RE[2]: silly advice
by unclefester on Sun 25th Dec 2011 00:20 in reply to "RE: silly advice"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

You do sound a bit insane.


Why because I support a proven business strategy (a highly diversified range of products) used by 99.99% of the most successful large companies in history?

Do you really think that any sane company should adopt the Apple model business which has already failed spectacularly in the past?

I'm pretty sure Samsung will still be around in 100 years. Apple will be lucky to survive another 10 years.

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RE[2]: silly advice
by RawMustard on Sun 25th Dec 2011 04:10 in reply to "RE: silly advice"
RawMustard Member since:
2005-10-10

Why? He's only quoting history and history has an uncanny ability of repeating itself. All indicators thus far point to this happening.

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RE: silly advice
by earksiinni on Sun 25th Dec 2011 10:26 in reply to "silly advice"
earksiinni Member since:
2009-03-27

Apple is almost certainly the only large company in the world that succeeds by limiting choice.

...

Virtually every other a major successful brand, apart from Apple, achieves success by offering as much choice as possible. Ralph Lauren makes dozens of different polo shirts colours and styles. BMW, Lexus and Mercedes offer a huge number of possible combinations of body, engine suspension, paint colour, interior trim etc.


Scotsman's fallacy

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RE[2]: silly advice
by unclefester on Sun 25th Dec 2011 11:52 in reply to "RE: silly advice"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Scotsman's fallacy


You don't seem to understand the Scotsman Fallacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

The legendary investor Sir John Templeton once said “This time is different” are among the most costly four words in market history.

Apple has not proven any business rules wrong. It has merely had a 6-8 year period of very rapid growth by choosing an extremely risky short term strategy. This is commonly known as "betting the farm" based on the practice of foolish farmers who risk everything they own on the expectation of making a huge profit.

It is utterly absurd to think that Apple, despite having the largest capitalisation of any corporation is capable of maintaining or even increasing it's current growth rate. This is something that no other corporation in history has ever achieved. Every "Top Dog" corporation in history has had a very short (typically only 1-2 years) stay at the top before having a significant decline in value.

The companies that survive the longest are invariably extremely risk averse. They are typically very heavily diversified or willing to grow slowly. Apple does neither.

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RE: silly advice
by kaiwai on Mon 26th Dec 2011 01:19 in reply to "silly advice"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple is almost certainly the only large company in the world that succeeds by limiting choice. This method only works because Apple has all the characteristics of a religious cult. Cults work by keeping the message simple and consistent and stifling dissent.

Virtually every other a major successful brand, apart from Apple, achieves success by offering as much choice as possible. Ralph Lauren makes dozens of different polo shirts colours and styles. BMW, Lexus and Mercedes offer a huge number of possible combinations of body, engine suspension, paint colour, interior trim etc.

Android is successful mainly because it offers so much choice. Most people want choice and the ability to customise. That is why you can buy thousands of different phone cases.

Cults nearly always die out shortly after their guru dies. Apple will not be an exception.


Amazing, I'm sitting here and within a few minutes I could think of half a dozen companies that limit choice and are very successful at what they do - simply because you're unable to obtain a Apple product doesn't some how mean that those of us who should be looked down upon as members of a cult. If you want to see a cult then you should go to a Microsoft conference with people running up and down the isle, loud bass pounding music and a CEO thinking he is 'hip and cool' at playing the crowd.

As for limiting choice - there is choice then there is the illusion of choice; there is as much choice in some companies as there was in the Soviet Union when it came to the various products being made. There is a reason why Apple has a small range of products - it is hardly anyones fault here that you're too bloody lazy to read up on the changes Steve Jobs along with is financial advisers did 14 years ago when he came back as the CEO.

Edited 2011-12-26 01:22 UTC

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RE[2]: silly advice
by unclefester on Mon 26th Dec 2011 04:21 in reply to "RE: silly advice"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Go ahead and name these dozen major corporations that succeed by limiting choice.

Resort to name calling "you must be jealous because you can't afford Apple products"

Deny you are in a cult - all cult members do

Ignore the reality. Apple is considered by accounting experts to be an extremely risky investment due to potential litigation, overvalued assets etc,
http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/AccountingRisk.do?tkr=AAPL

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RE[2]: silly advice
by unclefester on Mon 26th Dec 2011 06:12 in reply to "RE: silly advice"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

...it is hardly anyones fault here that you're too bloody lazy to read up on the changes Steve Jobs along with is financial advisers did 14 years ago when he came back as the CEO.


Back in 1997 I was very familiar with what was happening at Apple - you were probably still sucking your thumb.

It was Bill Gates who saved Apple back in 1997 not Steve Jobs. It was the very public show of support by MS including an investment of $150m that really saved Apple. Without this Apple would have simply imploded.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidcoursey/2011/10/28/happy-birthday-...

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