Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 23:04 UTC
Windows "Of all the ways you might have imagined Microsoft screwing up, 'making something fantastic' is probably last on the list. As every business student will tell you, the first and most important step to success is making a quality product. Yet, Microsoft seem to have found themselves in the very strange situation of making something very good - their mobile platform, Windows Phone - and actually doing worse than before. Even more confusing, however, is that it might be Microsoft's commitment to finally get it right this time that has hurt them. And somewhere in this mess, there are a number of lessons for some very new challenges to businesses."
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Remember the Kin.
by aaronmcohen on Wed 4th Jan 2012 00:57 UTC
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I think this is the second article to make OSNews on the subject. Windows Phone is a good OS. Unfortunately it's timing is bad. Remember Microsoft Kin? It was a solid feature phone but it only lasted 6 months. As a consumer how am I going to know my phone will be supported/developed for the life of the phone? Apple and Android have been out for a while. My brother's iPhone 3G can still receive OS updates and use new software. I can't say that for Microsoft Kin or the previous version of the MS Phone based OS.

We are not hesitant of Windows Phone 7 because it is or is not a good phone OS. We are because we are not sure if MS will stand by it or move on to the next shiny market opportunity. After 2 or 3 years, I expect Windows Phone to take off. The big question is if MS is willing to wait that long for the Market to accept them.

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RE: Remember the Kin.
by Macrat on Wed 4th Jan 2012 01:25 in reply to "Remember the Kin."
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IRemember Microsoft Kin? It was a solid feature phone but it only lasted 6 months.

6 months?

It was sold online starting May 6, 2010, in stores on May 13, 2010 and discontinued on June 30, 2010.

That's barely even 2 months.

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RE[2]: Remember the Kin.
by aaronmcohen on Wed 4th Jan 2012 01:50 in reply to "RE: Remember the Kin."
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I was giving it the benefit of the doubt.

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RE: Remember the Kin.
by steve_s on Wed 4th Jan 2012 21:00 in reply to "Remember the Kin."
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Your brother's iPhone 3G (introduced June 2008) stopped receiving OS updates at iOS 4.2.1, which came out well over a year ago (November 2010). It didn't get iOS 4.3. iOS is currently at 5.0.1, with 5.1 in beta...

Prior to the launch of the iPhone people didn't expect OS updates for their phones, and Windows Phone devices prior to WP7 tended not to get updates. From everything I have read with WP7 Microsoft have been releasing updates for all phones. Since it's a new platform (7.0 came out in October 2010) we'll need to wait just over a year year to see whether Microsoft keeps providing OS updates as long as Apple have.

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RE[2]: Remember the Kin.
by zima on Tue 10th Jan 2012 23:44 in reply to "RE: Remember the Kin."
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I doubt it's so clear (sure, it will be probably remembered like that long-term though; but popular narratives / mythologies don't have to be entirely correct)

Say - Symbian phones were traditionally getting updates, too (even if of a different kind, mostly bug-fixes; features were mostly frozen, and possibly for not bad reasons - different times, hw evolving too quickly and still always underpowered; software needed to be much better tailored, I guess)
Or, OTOH - that 3G (all Apple handsets in general) was mass-promoted and pushed on consumers for much longer than is typical the period of support since large-scale sales stopped should be also curious to note (but is universally ignored by loud & visible pundits)

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