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RE[7]: Flash usage
by lucas_maximus on Mon 9th Jan 2012 11:09 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Flash usage"
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In a recent discussion I had with Hakum Lie, CTO of browser maker Opera Software, the Nordic exec expressed concern about Google's approach.

"It's often that [Google] launch[es] services without testing in all browsers. We sometimes wake up in the morning and see a new Google service with things we could have fixed if they'd worked with us during the development phase," Lie said. "Now that they have their own browser, they think less of making sure it works across the board, which is a concern, because Google wouldn't have existed if it hadn't been for open standards. We'd probably all live in Microsoft land."

But Lie acknowledged Google's contributions to Web standards, "Some of those experiments are great," he said. "We need to have experimentation going on, and we can't demand that everything works in all browsers. But you should test in major browsers."

From here,,2817,2397158,00.asp

I have seen websites that only work properly with webkit these days, and suddenly everyone thinks that is alright ... but everyone seems to be up in arms if a site only work properly in IE.

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RE[8]: Flash usage
by Lennie on Mon 9th Jan 2012 12:16 in reply to "RE[7]: Flash usage"
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"suddenly everyone thinks that is alright"

Actually, the people who do that are just 'hacks'.

If Google forgets to test with Opera and/or others that would be bad.

But now that I think about it, I see a lot of sloppy code on Google websites. Code probably no-one still remembers why it is exists.

Their internal process for updating sites in general should was a mess.

A simple example is Google Analytics in combination with old versions of IE, like 6 It broke at times. They obviously didn't test properly.

Although I think that has actually improved.

I don't think it is Google that changed, when they made Google Gears no-one complained.

It was just an experiment to see what was possible before these things got adopted as part of HTML5.

Now that they have this marketshare, the impact on the other players is much bigger.

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