Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Jan 2012 20:10 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems The news I've seen coming out of the Consumer Electronics Show this year isn't particularly breathtaking or awe-inspiring. Phones, tablets, faster, thinner, yes, yes, we've all been here before. There is one piece of news, however, that stands out from the crowd. The best-selling TV maker in the US, Vizio, is entering the PC market. Stunning designs for both laptop and all-in-one - and buried deep within the press release lies the creamy nougaty centre that makes me want to buy one even more: a Windows 7 install optimised by Microsoft, free of crapware.
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RE[5]: LMAO
by lucas_maximus on Tue 10th Jan 2012 20:01 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: LMAO"
lucas_maximus
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2009-08-18

I have a Harley 1984 Sportster 1200, that has been modded quite a bit. I would love ABS (they have it on motorbikes to).

Modern cars are more like a house on wheels than a car I would argue, and they are quite safe upto quite high speeds, however they aren't that safe to those outside.

I recently moved to Spain/Gibraltar (I commute between the two), the driving seems to be crazy compared to the Great Britain.

However because everyone is driving batshit insane, everyone is paying huge amounts of attention.

I actually feel a lot safer around cars when on my push bike, because I know drivers are paying attention. Which they don't in the UK.

The Harley always gets spotted (when it starts which isn't often), so that isn't so worrying when driving in the UK.

Edited 2012-01-10 20:05 UTC

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RE[6]: LMAO
by smashIt on Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:40 in reply to "RE[5]: LMAO"
smashIt Member since:
2005-07-06

I recently moved to Spain/Gibraltar (I commute between the two), the driving seems to be crazy compared to the Great Britain.


next time you should use the right lane
i'm sure that would reduce your stresslevel ;)

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RE[7]: LMAO
by lucas_maximus on Wed 11th Jan 2012 14:06 in reply to "RE[6]: LMAO"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I have wondered why all the cars where driving the wrong ;)

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RE[6]: LMAO
by suryad on Wed 11th Jan 2012 16:22 in reply to "RE[5]: LMAO"
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2005-07-09

Yeah it's like driving in India. You would think it doesn't work but it does. People there are insane drivers. The pedestrians are insane but boy is everyone aware...driving in India is like driving with the force...you have to or else you just won't even step out of the house!

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RE[7]: LMAO
by leos on Wed 11th Jan 2012 16:44 in reply to "RE[6]: LMAO"
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2005-09-21

Yeah it's like driving in India. You would think it doesn't work but it does.


Common misconception. It doesn't actually work. India is the world leader in road fatalities. It looks crazy and chaotic, and it is also highly dangerous. People might be more aware, but that isn't enough to reduce the danger.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/world/asia/08iht-roads.html?pagew...

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RE[7]: LMAO
by zima on Thu 12th Jan 2012 02:30 in reply to "RE[6]: LMAO"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah it's like driving in India. You would think it doesn't work but it does.

Yeah, and actual statistic say something completely different...

BTW: a buddy, who spent some time there, not only maintains that he would never dare driving in India, instead opting to at most be a passenger driven around by a local & in relatively "armoured" car - he also preferred to do that (passenger thing) only after two of three drinks. One might call it "force" I guess.

Edited 2012-01-12 02:31 UTC

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RE[6]: LMAO
by zima on Thu 12th Jan 2012 02:23 in reply to "RE[5]: LMAO"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I recently moved to Spain/Gibraltar (I commute between the two), the driving seems to be crazy compared to the Great Britain.
However because everyone is driving batshit insane, everyone is paying huge amounts of attention.
I actually feel a lot safer around cars when on my push bike, because I know drivers are paying attention. Which they don't in the UK.
The Harley always gets spotted [...], so that isn't so worrying when driving in the UK.

Your feelings deceive you. You have ~2 times higher chance of dying on the road in Spain; it apparently has ~2 times higher road fatality rates than the UK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_d... (those seem to include motorcyclists)

My place is in turn over two times worse than Spain; the "havoc on the road makes people safer" is rubbish (I think I can guarantee you that, among other factors, driver training and road culture are on average very poor in the places at the bottom half of that Wiki list, where "everyone is driving batshit insane, everyone is paying huge amounts of attention")

Driving in the UK is a joy in comparison; though one does have to learn a higher kind of road culture (better to, at the least, drive around as a passenger for a few weeks with somebody; otherwise at the beginning you catch yourself feeling like you're some boor from a savage place, making mess)


Mind you, Spain doesn't really seem anywhere near bad - it's very nearly the top, and "merely" average for the EU (but that's probably mostly because of the newish members who pulled down the EU-wide stats, two of which are familiar to me...)
You experience one of the best driving environments in the world, anyway.


BTW, regarding "feelings" on the road and such - IIRC, 80+% of the drivers think they are above average ones.

Edited 2012-01-12 02:37 UTC

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RE[6]: LMAO
by zima on Sun 15th Jan 2012 00:13 in reply to "RE[5]: LMAO"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

PS. I also suspect you might think motorcyclists are more at danger in the UK partly because of quite widespread mass-media campaign few years back, which I just remembered - one about how car drivers need to be watchful for motorcycles, & showing the consequences when they're not.

So the problem (because it is still a problem obviously, even if relatively minor in comparison to many places) got quite a lot of attention, you remember it well from the UK.

Most other places generally don't seem to care so much, beyond mainly just this stereotype of motorcyclists being "organ donors" & reckless devils of the road, purely responsible for what happens to them.

Edited 2012-01-15 00:20 UTC

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