Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Jan 2012 13:30 UTC, submitted by davidiwharper
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris Somewhere in 2001, I bought a computer magazine which came with a Linux CD. I had heard of Linux before, but while we did have broadband back then and was technically capable of downloading a Linux distribution, this method was far easier. This was my first foray into Linux - it was Mandrake. Now, though, it seems the curtain has really dropped for the French Linux company.
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sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

And now you are offensive. You don't bother to check the claims but you spit insults.


I've gone over the kernel development statistic over at LWN, and Mandriva only made it out of the noise once in recent history.

Mandriva has contributed a lot to the Kernel, Xorg and KDE.


Patch list please? Evidence? You're the one making the claim.

Red Hat doesn't care about the desktop at all.


CentOS/Scientific Linux/RHEL are actually the best Linux desktops out there. It's not the newest stuff. But unlike with most other Linux distros, it *works*. In fact, it's my primary desktop.

Ubuntu just get a buggy debian package, put it on their repository and don't even check that it does not work in Unity.


Granted, Mandriva's been off the radar for some time, so I haven't checked. But based upon consistent past experience with the distro, I'd say the pot's calling the kettle black, here. Poor QA was always Mandr*'s major failing.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Who gives a damn--bottom line is the company is doing no good having bankruptcy threats every damn year. I'm not aware of too much good the company has done in recent years; if anything, their constant state of turmoil is causing fragmentation in Linux. Otherwise, Mageia wouldn't have formed. I never hear of Mandriva contributing to anything major in general to open source software of the community either, and there sure ain't proof of any in this thread.

And come on... a programmer doesn't automatically go to oil companies because he loses his job, Get serious. He'll go to another open source company (Red Hat), some proprietary company, or even just start developing for one of the other dozens of major Linux distros in his free time instead.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23


I've gone over the kernel development statistic over at LWN, and Mandriva only made it out of the noise once in recent history.

I suppose you searched google and found this link:
http://lwn.net/Articles/395961/
This link actually shows that Mandriva was the 9th contributor in term of line of code contributed in 2.6.35, with almost 30000 lines of code contributed.
I suppose you call that noise because you have never done any serious software development. For your information, 30000 lines of code is HUGE.

Patch list please? Evidence? You're the one making the claim.

Please stop being of bad faith. Just use google. Mandriva contributed to Nepomuk, Koffice and a lot of free software. I already told you I have first hand experience with Mandriva contributing to my project. Anyway, you hate Mandriva so there is no point trying to explain how important their contribution is.


CentOS/Scientific Linux/RHEL are actually the best Linux desktops out there. It's not the newest stuff. But unlike with most other Linux distros, it *works*. In fact, it's my primary desktop.

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/application-development/2003/11/04/red-...

Granted, Mandriva's been off the radar for some time, so I haven't checked. But based upon consistent past experience with the distro, I'd say the pot's calling the kettle black, here. Poor QA was always Mandr*'s major failing.

Your opinion.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I suppose you searched google and found this link:
http://lwn.net/Articles/395961/ . This link actually shows that Mandriva was the 9th contributor in term of line of code contributed in 2.6.35

In fact I went right to the LWN.net articles. No Google was necessary, since I knew the information was there.

I take it that this was the only evidence you could dig up for Mandriva kernel code contributions, else you would have paraded that out. It is all I was able to find, as well.

For your information, 30000 lines of code is HUGE.

It represents 2.8% of lines changed in 2.6.35. 2.6.35 being but one of ~40 releases in the 2.6 series. Perhaps more to the point, it represents 0.25% of total kernel code.

If the ~1,000,000 lines changed in 2.6.25 is representative of that in the other ~40 kernel releases, then Mandriva's 29,100 lines changed in 2.6.35 represents about 0.006% of line changes in the 2.6 series. (That's 1/16,000th) That's hardly "huge" by any objective measure.

I believe your argument is that without Mandriva, Linux will be substantially the poorer. This evidence demonstrates pretty clearly that users of the Linux kernel would likely never be able to perceive the difference, no matter what happens to Mandriva.

Please stop being of bad faith. Just use google. Mandriva contributed to Nepomuk, Koffice and a lot of free software.

If you had a link to evidence that would impress, you would post it in a minute, rather than resorting to the "just Google it" smokescreen.

Anyway, you hate Mandriva so there is no point trying...

I don't hate Mandriva. I'm just asking you to supply evidence to support your hyperbolic claims.

-Steve

Edited 2012-01-13 00:26 UTC

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