Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Jan 2012 16:20 UTC, submitted by moondevil
Windows And so the war on general computing continues. Were you looking forward to ARM laptops and maybe even desktops now that Windows 8 will also be released for ARM? I personally was, because I'd much rather have a thin, but fast and economical machine than a beastly Intel PC. Sadly, it turns out that all our fears regarding UEFI's Secure Boot feature were justified: Microsoft prohibits OEMs from allowing you to install anything other than Windows 8 on ARM devices (the Software Freedom Law Center has more).
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lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

I pad is not advertised as a PC. People easily associate it with apple walled garden approach they have been consistently executing for years now .


A Macintosh is also a PC, you can run any Operating system on it as long as it is has been ported to PowerPC or x86. It might be stretch-arm-strongly to adapt another OS to this platform.

How is an Apple Laptop Walled Garden? Unless you are very short or not a lot of strength in your ARMS ... I think it will be quite simple to peek over the wall ... and see the next door neighbours.

Windows PCs are another story. MS is clear they will pitch the usual openness argument against Apple product as one of the major advantages and state their tablets are indeed true PCs and use x86 sibling devices as a moniker to further confuse the consumer. They did't for example advertise XBOX as a gaming PC.


Actually most Windows Phone 7 adverts were along the lines of "get shit done, and it compliments your life not takes it over", this was all done while people were holding the phone with their hand ... which is attached to both an arm and an ARM.

Windows 7 was about "getting shit done easily" every advert was about getting stuff done. However is only needed maybe a maximum 1 arm to operate.

They advertised the XBOX as a console, the original XBOX worked like a console, looked like a console, behaved like a console ... you know the saying about "ducks" ... it applies here. The controller didn't require you to use your arms quite in the same way the Wii did.

As I said before. Thom is up in arms about the fact that they will be restricted ... but says he has an iPad 2 that no doubt he is holding with his arm.


Wait a sec ... the Windows device sounds exactly like an iPad 2 ... proprietary operating system, can't install another without hacking the system and has a custom UI specific to the Operating system.

But one he is willing to buy, whilst the other because it comes from Microsoft he is soo up in arms ... he won't by an ARM.

Edited 2012-01-13 21:51 UTC

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PieterGen Member since:
2012-01-13

Yes, Apple is the prototype of walled garden. I prefer not to buy Apple products for that reason.

Both Microsofts and Apples have dubious business ethics (to put it very mildly).

However, Apple's software sucks much less than Microsofts. This week I had to install some Microsoft software for a friend. OMG, do they screw things up - if you want to make simple things VERY complicated, call Microsoft.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

How many times did I have to put the word "arm" into that post and you still didn't get I was mucking about?

Edited 2012-01-13 22:16 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

However, Apple's software sucks much less than Microsofts. This week I had to install some Microsoft software for a friend. OMG, do they screw things up - if you want to make simple things VERY complicated, call Microsoft.


REALLY?

PHP on IIS ... 1. download PHP 5.3 for IIS, 2. Install PHP for IIS, 3. Enjoy PHP on IIS.

Visual Studio 2010 (the most complicated development IDE in existence).

1) Insert CD, 2) Agree, 3) What to install, 4) Install

*I know there is a few bullshit steps in between that take like a second.*

Lesson to you ... don't tell lies about Windows.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Both Microsofts and Apples have dubious business ethics (to put it very mildly).


Compared to who? and in what way as you seem to know so much?

How are their business practices dubious?

Why don't you work for the consumer trading standards as you seem to know so much about this?#

You must be an expert on business ethics, why don't you tell me how they are unethical. Do they sacrifice a child per Macbook?

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dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

I don't know about Thom but I don't care about Ipad because I firmly believe its days of market dominance are numbered and being a luxury gadget it will ultimately occupy the same niche as macs. The remaining majority of market is to be grabbed and I'm afraid MS is poised to get there eventually and won't tolerate any competition. This move only confirms that.
MS is always about absolute market dominance and unification that works mostly to its advantage.

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