Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Jan 2012 00:09 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes ...and we're back. Like so many other sites on the web, OSNews joined the worldwide protest against the Stop Online Piracy Act and the PROTECT-IP Act, which threaten to end free speech, economic innovation, privacy, and the free exchange of information on the web. I don't wish to waste too many words on our participation, so consider this item as a sort of comment lightening rod to make sure that when the next story is posted, we can focus fully on its topic. Update: DC seems to be getting the message the internet sent today.
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Musings on SOPA and piracy
by WorknMan on Thu 19th Jan 2012 01:58 UTC
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

Now that the 'SOPA protest day' is rounding down, let's talk about the problem of piracy. Many SOPA supporters will tell you that piracy is a real problem because it results in lost sales and the loss of jobs. Well, many people would argue with this reasoning, but let's say for the sake of argument that this is true. Which leads me to ask the following question:

So what?

How many jobs have been lost and companies gone down the crapper as a result of the Internet. If there's one truism about the Internet (and technology in general) is that businesses that either can't or wont adapt to the changes will cease to exist. But for businesses that are destroyed, new ones are created. This is the way it has been since the advent of business, and I'm just not sure why we should feel guilted into trying to save businesses who's end products can now be replicated an infinite amount of times for $0. As we come to grips with this new reality, maybe that means people won't be able to make movies that costs $200 million, and make me feel a little dumber every time I watch them. Is that not ok? Of course, music and books will always exist, as will movies that don't cost a fortune to make. As for apps and games, those who want to make money off of them will probably go to an online/subscription model as a way to curb piracy. This is an end result that a lot of people won't like, but it is just the way of things.

As a final thought, once physical replicators become a reality, are we going to insist that people still buy a loaf of bread, when they can just create one out of thin air? I'm just saying that instead of wasting time trying to stop something that will never be stopped, and labeling pirates as seal-clubbing bastards, maybe... just MAYBE we should try and think about how things are going to work going forward, with piracy being simply a reality, and a business problem for some to work out. Can you figure out a way to sell content that people can download for free? If yes, then great. If no, then you go out of business. It's just as simple as that. You don't have some god-given right to create content and sell it, especially when it's pretty much in the public domain as soon as you put it out there. If that means you have to find a new career, sucks to be you. If you couldn't see this coming, it's your own damn fault.

Edited 2012-01-19 02:00 UTC

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RE: Musings on SOPA and piracy
by Soulbender on Thu 19th Jan 2012 06:24 in reply to "Musings on SOPA and piracy"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

It's interesting to take into consideration that the technologies to make movies and music of high production values is becoming cheaper by the month.
And, seriously, $200 for a movie? That's fscking insane.
Also look at a recent counter example to "piracy is killing movie profits".
The first Sherlock Holmes movie had a budget of $90 million and made more than $524 at the box office. Please don't tell me piracy is killing the profits. Maybe what's wrong is the profit expectations. Maybe too many shitty movies with high budgets are made.
Maybe the time has come when you will not make insane profits on movies any more but such is life. A lot of businesses and professions has come and gone over the ages and I don't see anyone crying over the fact that you can't become famous and rich by being a woodcutter anymore.

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qbast Member since:
2010-02-08

Oh, I am sure that after accountants finished their part of creative work, "Sherlock Holmes" was a net loss. Look ma, no taxes!

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RE: Musings on SOPA and piracy
by Valhalla on Thu 19th Jan 2012 07:55 in reply to "Musings on SOPA and piracy"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

I would take it one step further in regards to the whole 'losing jobs' thing. I am certain that piracy does result in lost sales, how many lost sales is another matter entirely and it's obviously not anywhere remotely near the one lost sale per illegal copy which is what the content industry is fabricating as facts.

But let's say that there is loss of income, and that this leads to a loss of jobs in that industry. Does that mean that the money people are not spending on content just suddenly disappear? No, obviously not, instead that money is being spent in other areas (perhaps physical goods or services) which in turn employ people, which in turn might employ more people than what would have had the money been spent on what the content industry offers, which in would be better for the economy as a whole.

Obviously this doesn't negate the right of imaginar... intellectual property owners to cry foul when they are not compensated for these copies but to claim that 'american jobs' are at stake seems disingenuous at best
given that what we are talking about here are jobs in a particular industry that are potentially lost, and that the loss of jobs in that area is most likely to generate jobs in other areas.

edit: Oh, and respect to OSNews for the blackout, not being able to access one of your favourite sites at all during a period drives the message home in a much stronger way than a black bar over the logo.

Edited 2012-01-19 08:00 UTC

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RE: Musings on SOPA and piracy
by Rosc0 on Thu 19th Jan 2012 19:57 in reply to "Musings on SOPA and piracy"
Rosc0 Member since:
2008-01-09

Really REALLY the best post I've ever read about the so-called piracy. You spell the words for what I was thinking.

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