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Apple's $30 price is an upgrade price
by MollyC on Sat 3rd Mar 2012 00:35 UTC
MollyC
Member since:
2006-07-04

Apple does not allow a user to install OS X on any hardware that did not have a previous version of Apple's OS on it at some time in the past. So all retail sales of OSX are effectively "upgrade" versions, and priced at "upgrade" prices.

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Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Exactly right, and I really wonder why it took them until 10.6 to figure that out. Or was it that they simply felt they could no longer get away with duping their own rabid customers? After all, the bigger the Mac using community gets, the savvier they collectively become.

I also find it interesting that the price dropped around the time the OSX86 movement peaked. I can tell you from personal experience that I would much rather run OS X on a "real" Mac than even the most compatible homemade clone. I specifically sought out hardware that would be a near perfect match for the Developer Transition Kits, except I went for a Core 2 Duo board for future Snow Leopard compatibility. After weeks of struggling I finally ended up with a nice fake Mac. Then a little glitch here, a random reboot there, a kernel panic every few days...I was done. I was so ready for a "real" Mac I would have settled for another G4 mini.

I honestly think Apple was just fine with people trying OS X on their PCs; after all, the hardware is their real revenue stream, the OS is just a hefty selling point. They can price it at $5 just to cover the cost of overhead and they will be happy because that customer is entrenched as an iContent consumer for another 12-18 months...just in time to buy the latest iMac or MacBook!

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Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Morgan,

"After weeks of struggling I finally ended up with a nice fake Mac. Then a little glitch here, a random reboot there, a kernel panic every few days..."

Many people build lin/win systems which don't crash that often. Reputable hardware is fairly reliable. The majority of crashes are caused by faulty software. It's always possible that it's the hardware, but if you bought good components with a correctly spec'ed power supply, then you'd need to have more evidence than MacOS crashing to convince me it's the hardware. What does memtest say?

Yes, I know someone might think that MacOS is reliable on apple hardware, therefor the other hardware must be faulty. But the fact is apple have the benefit of coding for a homogeneous product line and they needn't bother testing their code against a broader hardware base.

"I honestly think Apple was just fine with people trying OS X on their PCs; after all, the hardware is their real revenue stream, the OS is just a hefty selling point."

I think if Apple allowed MacOS on generic hardware then there would be a huge demand for it. Ultimately that would be great for their OS popularity, but bad for their PC products. People buy apple hardware because they want MacOS. Their new OS pricing would have to reflect lost hardware sales. Also, I imagine there's work involved before it'd be ready for generic use.

After killing Psystar though, I doubt this is in the deck. But if they did it then MacOS would be more within my price range; it'd offer a serious contender to the windows desktop monopoly for typical users.

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_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

After all, the bigger the Mac using community gets, the savvier they collectively become.


Actually, I think you have that backwards.

What is true, is that the rabid fanaticism gets somewhat more diluted...

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