Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Mar 2012 22:59 UTC
Apple And it was that time of the year again - Apple held one of its product announcements. This one focussed on the iPad mostly, and while some will call it a disappointment merely because virtually everything had already been leaked, I'm still in awe over the fact the newly announced iPad has a 2048x1536 display. My mind is blown.
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Still Crippled.
by bornagainenguin on Thu 8th Mar 2012 00:49 UTC
bornagainenguin
Member since:
2005-08-07

The one thing I was looking for was the announcement that you could use the dang thing without having to plug it into a desktop. Without this it is still crippled by requiring an external computer to sync with iTunes. This makes absolutely no sense to me now that they're pushing iCloud and they have an iTunes app that runs directly on the iPad itself.

Can anyone tell me why in the world I or anyone else should want to connect to an external just to get my video podcasts to my iPad? Never mind the various mp3s and other movies I may or may not have--why can't I use the internal iTunes to get my freaking podcasts???

Despite the addition of the rest of the iLife suite, this requirement from the 90s to sync everything makes the iPad nearly worthless, because it is made deliberately not a computer by crippling it in this manner.

--bornagainpenguin

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RE: Still Crippled.
by WorknMan on Thu 8th Mar 2012 01:07 in reply to "Still Crippled."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Can anyone tell me why in the world I or anyone else should want to connect to an external just to get my video podcasts to my iPad? Never mind the various mp3s and other movies I may or may not have--why can't I use the internal iTunes to get my freaking podcasts???


You can sync stuff wirelessly if you want. Plus, with some apps (like AVPlayer and GoodReader), you can set up an http and/or ftp server to beam your files over, no iTunes required. Trust me, I hate iTunes, and the syncing with iOS5 is not as horrible as I thought it would be ;)

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RE[2]: Still Crippled.
by bornagainenguin on Thu 8th Mar 2012 03:54 in reply to "RE: Still Crippled."
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

WorknMan replied...

You can sync stuff wirelessly if you want. Plus, with some apps (like AVPlayer and GoodReader), you can set up an http and/or ftp server to beam your files over, no iTunes required.


I don't want to have to use special apps, I want to use the apps the manufacturer included and optimized for the device. I also don't want to have to use any ludicrous workarounds to use the device.

It comes with iTunes. Why can't I use the iTunes it comes with to get my podcasts? Isn't that what the app does? Isn't that how you're supposed to get podcasts in the Apple ecosystem, from within iTunes?

Why do I have to use an external iTunes to download and then copy over the podcast when the device is capable of getting it and storing it all within itself. Is the iPad a computer or not?

WorknMan posted...
Trust me, I hate iTunes, and the syncing with iOS5 is not as horrible as I thought it would be ;)


Actually I don't mind iTunes so much as I mind syncing itself. To me it just seems like a 90s era technology that made a lot of sense for PDAs, made some sense for music players, made a bit of sense for phones, but makes no sense for a tablet computer. If it is a "real" computer (and having the complete iLife suite seems to imply it is) then why do I need yet another computer to make it work?

--bornagainpenguin

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RE: Still Crippled.
by henderson101 on Thu 8th Mar 2012 02:30 in reply to "Still Crippled."
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Do you know when the last time I used iTunes with my iPad was? Honestly? 6 months ago, when I upgraded to iOS 5. I've never needed to attach it since then. It backs up to iCloud. I download all content. Music comes from iTunes Match.

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RE[2]: Still Crippled.
by mrstep on Thu 8th Mar 2012 02:47 in reply to "RE: Still Crippled."
mrstep Member since:
2009-07-18

And now the OS updates no longer need to be connected to iTunes either. Looks like you're going to go well past 6 months.

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RE[2]: Still Crippled.
by bornagainenguin on Thu 8th Mar 2012 03:57 in reply to "RE: Still Crippled."
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

henderson101 declared...

Do you know when the last time I used iTunes with my iPad was? Honestly? 6 months ago, when I upgraded to iOS 5. I've never needed to attach it since then. It backs up to iCloud. I download all content. Music comes from iTunes Match.


Awesome! Now tell me how do you add your podcasts to the iPad without connecting it to another computer, using only the software that came with it from Apple?

Yeah...I thought so. It's crippled.

--bornagainpenguin

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RE[2]: Still Crippled.
by gan17 on Thu 8th Mar 2012 10:31 in reply to "RE: Still Crippled."
gan17 Member since:
2008-06-03

I know about PC-free updates from iOS 5 onwards. but....

Most of my music I rip from CDs and encode myself. Most of the movies on my hard drive are torrented (yes, pirated)

Is there a way to transfer my music and movies to an iPhone/iPad running iOS 5.x without iTunes or any other software? I'm a Linux & BSD user, in case that matters.

Genuine question here. Last iDevice I owned was a 3G.

I don't mind using iTunes on the actual iPhone/Pad but cannot/will not install it on my computers.

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RE: Still Crippled.
by nefer on Thu 8th Mar 2012 21:31 in reply to "Still Crippled."
nefer Member since:
2012-02-15

Syncing with iTunes on the desktop stopped being a requirement since iOS5.

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RE[2]: Still Crippled.
by bornagainenguin on Thu 8th Mar 2012 21:43 in reply to "RE: Still Crippled."
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

nefer said...

Syncing with iTunes on the desktop stopped being a requirement since iOS5.


Great! Now tell me how to get iTunes on the iPad to download my podcasts without thirdparty tools or hacks and without needing to connect to a desktop with iTunes...

...

...

...yeah, I didn't think so. I'm calling it as I see it--the iPad has been deliberately crippled for no good reason.

--bornagainpenguin

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